Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dinero (cache simulator)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Tim Song (talk) 01:23, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Dinero (cache simulator)

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I don't think this article meets notability requirements, and has been tagged that way since October 2009. The article cites one course at ITT, and says "it is frequently used in education purpose" without providing any evidence to prove it.  T p k 5 0 1 0  [ Talk ] 07:09, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for notifying me in my talk page :). However, I found Dinero is widely used in education as you can see in Google search result. I think it would be supplemented ref paragraph in article. It was my fault that there are not enough infos about wide usage in the article. -- Modamoda (talk) 18:33, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  kur  ykh   07:30, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have not looked at the topic enough for a position on what to do with this article, but a quick Google Scholar search (terms: "Dinero" +cache simulator) returned 537 results. The same terms in Google Books returned 158 results, some of which suggest that there is significant coverage in reliable sources. A few random tidbits from the first page of results: In "MSCsim--Multilevel and Split Cache Simulator", a conference paper from the ASEE/IEEE Frontiers in Education Conference says, "Some memory hierarchy simulators such as Dinero III, Dinero IV ... are known in the academic world...". It also says that they are known for "cache memory simulation excellence". EDA for IC, system design, verification and testing, a book published by CRC press, says on page 3-14, "The dinero simulator is a well-known example of a cache simulator." In "Computer Architecture Simulation Applets For Use In Teaching", another paper from the ASEE/IEEE Frontiers in Education Conference, there is a short section on Dinero, and it is claimed that it is distributed with the 1996 (second edition?) of Hennessey's and Patterson's Computer Architecture: A Quantitative Approach textbook. From the Google results it would seem that the software is widely known and is used in academia. While none of the examples I have provided are of significant coverage of the topic, I think that it is demonstrated that there is sufficient coverage and claims to warrant further efforts in locating references. Rilak (talk) 04:41, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - Rilak said what I want to say. But I think this article should be improved. Thanks Rilak :) -- Modamoda (talk) 14:00, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  00:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions.  -- Pcap  ping  08:53, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions.  -- Pcap  ping  08:53, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete: I can't find significant coverage for this software. Joe Chill (talk) 02:32, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Over 100 citations for the paper describing the latest version, Dinero IV, . In research academia it's extremely rare to find people describing at length other's work; instead we have to go by citation count. This is a cache simulator, so it's a rather specialized piece of software, not taught to undergrads, so you're not going to find it described in textbooks. Pcap ping  03:24, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The claim that it's used in education seems to check out,           ; this constitutes secondary coverage for WP:GNG purposes. As far as I an tell most of these are graduate course in computer architecture. Pcap  ping  04:11, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. —Ruud 15:48, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
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