Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ding Mao


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Baseball   Watcher  02:09, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Ding Mao

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Fails WP:BLP1E and WP:BIO1E, and hence WP:N. Of two references used, one is from the "Chinese Human Rights Defenders" website, which fails WP:RS as it is not a WP:NPOV source. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 06:20, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete: No information beyond a name except from the CHRD advocacy website, where every student is a "student leader" and every detainee is "criminally detained". The reference from AsiaNews (a self-styled Catholic missionary website) is just a passing reference; name-dropping for a nobody. Quigley (talk) 06:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete: Not notable enough. Mentioned with other names in some news sources and no background to the person whatsoever. Zlqq2144 (talk) 07:18, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Strong keep: Complies to WP:N, he was a leader in the 1989 pro-democracy movement, a co-founder of the unrecognized Social Democratic Party, and now he is arrested during the 2011 Chinese protests. Meanwhile there have been added more references complying to WP:RS, hence the article about this activist should stay. — Waikiki_lwt Talk &#124; contribs &#124; email 08:47, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:45, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep Passes WP:N. This AfD is part of an attempt by certain editor(s) to remove material that is negative to the Communist Party of China. --Reference Desker (talk) 08:06, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Reference Desker, you will continue to lose the trust of editors that meet you so long as you throw such slimy accusations at others. – HXL's Roundtable  and  Record  20:56, 30 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per sources added after nomination, meets WP:GNG via CNN, NYDN sources. --joe deckertalk to me 18:27, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, / ƒETCH COMMS  /  17:00, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect to some appropriate article about recent events in China. Even in the sources now added, Ding Mao is only mentioned as a dissident who has been arrested, but there is nothing about him apart from that mention. This is not enough to support a biographical article per WP:BIO. The article can be restored if Ding Mao is covered by reliable secondary sources in some depth.  Sandstein   07:30, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, definitely not a BLP1E as explained above. Also, whether a biased source is reliable depends on the kind of information it's sourcing. - file lake  shoe  14:31, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep. Current version of article refutes all the nominator's claims. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:49, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY - it is now well-sourced and proves some notability. Bearian (talk) 03:40, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - well sourced and clearly notable.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:45, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect at best per Sandstein's comment. – HXL's Roundtable  and  Record  20:56, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
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