Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diogenes Small


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Discussion to merge should take place at the article's talk page. – Juliancolton  | Talk 01:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Diogenes Small

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No assertion of notability, few search results outside of Wikipedia. Very few book results. ← Spidern  →  15:20, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Inspector Morse may be a highly notable series of books, but this character is not really in the slightest bit important in the series.  Although I have to wonder if he's a relation of Solomon Short's. JulesH (talk) 16:06, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. This is one kind of fictional character we really ought to have articles on. He's presented in the very popular books as "real" -- a source for quotations, epigrams, whatever, and nothing in the series lets the reader know he's not real. People will try to look him up.  The article is useful in a way that most articles about fictional characters aren't. See Necronomicon and The Book of Counted Sorrows for similar stuff. Also note the Wikiquote section, which shows the level of interest maybe.Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 22:27, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. More or less a repeat of the previous comment. He is as real as any other fictional character and needs to be included - that is if Wikipedia intends to be all-inclusive. His quotations have an importance as they have been used elsewhere. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:22, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep or alternatively, Merge to Inspector Morse. That article seems to be more about the series than the character. (Though that isn't exactly clear in the article's intro.) - jc37 08:44, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Have added a couple more sources to the article. Hiding T 12:54, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to Inspector Morse. Very little content here and this will never aspire to anything more than a stub. Entirely in universe and has no notability outside of the Morse series. Notability is not inherited. Eusebeus (talk) 21:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Not sure how you can tell that this will never aspire to anything more than a stub. Also, unless we have read a different article, I'm not sure how this is in-universe. It's all written from the perspective of the author rather than the character, and meets the very definition of out of universe. As to notability not being inherited, of course it is. It isn't inherent, it is inherited from secondary sources, like the ones listed at the article. Hiding T 11:16, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Just a guess, but I think they're talking about WP:INHERITED. - jc37 19:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I know that, but it is still a flawed argument. Also, see User:Hiding/Points to note regarding deletion debates and User:Hiding/What notability is not.  And now I'm guilty of cutting and pasting arguments only somewhat related. Hiding T 20:20, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. I read the entire article(it was short) and it seems quite notable.  The character has appeared in numerous books, and been often quoted elsewhere.   D r e a m Focus  13:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.