Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dirk Baberowski


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. This article has been on AfD for three weeks and has been relisted twice and only one editor has contributed with a desire to keep the article, in contrast to the deletion nomination. There is no consensus on this article and relisting for a third time would not benefit the discussion in my opinion. (non-admin closure) st170e talk 00:27, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Dirk Baberowski

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No coverage outside primary sources Prisencolin (talk) 23:28, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - It's been quite a while since this issue was meaningfully addressed at AfD. With overwhelming agreement across seven deletion discussions (see discussions on Brian Selden, Tommi Hovi, Darwin Kastle, Kai Budde, Mike Long, and Jon Finkel, twice), it's fairly clear that there is a consensus that the top Magic: The Gathering players are notable. On that basis, WP:MTG established some guidelines as to when an MTG player is notable, which Baberowski meets. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:58, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The WP:MTG guidelines allow for pages that don't otherwise meet GNG requirements. Many of these pro players articles just lack reliable, secondary sources, plain and simple and so shouldn't exist on WP as standalone articles. Note that per WP:LOCALCONCENSUS "... unless they can convince the broader community that such action is right, participants in a WikiProject cannot decide that some generally accepted policy or guideline does not apply to articles within its scope. " Also note that an WP:ALTERNATIVE, exists, a fan wiki that covers the MTG pro scene, so its not like this information would be lost if not for wikipedia.Prisencolin (talk) 03:44, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor Talk! 08:23, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor Talk! 08:23, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor Talk! 00:13, 18 May 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, st170e talk 01:32, 25 May 2016 (UTC)


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