Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dirk Staudinger


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 04:00, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Dirk Staudinger

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:ATHLETE due to lack of significant third-party coverage. Rentier (talk) 22:39, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:42, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:43, 6 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep meets WP:NSPORT as a member of Germany's national team. ~Kvng (talk) 16:22, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not sure if there's an WP:NHOCKEY fail. There was a ice hockey world championship in 1994 which Germany participated in; he played 9 games for them in 1994. Merely playing in the national team is apparently not enough according to NHOCKEY Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:31, 7 December 2017 (UTC) Striking; according to this he did not play in the world championship. Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:34, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * He played field hockey, not ice hockey, so WP:NHOCKEY doesn't apply. The article is merely an advertisement for his consultancy. Rentier (talk) 16:47, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah I thought that might be so. Seems like an advertisement; it's a translation of the de wikipedia article. Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:03, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I was aware of this and have not cited WP:NHOCKEY. I based my keep position on WP:NSPORT, "The guidelines on this page are intended to reflect the fact that sports figures are likely to meet Wikipedia's basic standards of inclusion if they have, for example, participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest level (such as the Olympics)." Field Hockey is an Olympic sport. ~Kvng (talk) 17:59, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * If the highest level competitions are those listed at Field_hockey, he didn't participate in any of them. Thus I disagree that the subject meets WP:NSPORT, and I don't see how a decent article can ever be written on him based on the sources available. Rentier (talk) 22:18, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:11, 13 December 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep As a member of Germany's national team he played at the highest professional level, which means that he fulfils the WP:NSPORT guidelines. Significant coverage is given. HL2017 (talk) 17:07, 15 December 2017 (UTC) — HL2017 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Sock vote struck. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:04, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   13:34, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * delete He doesn't seem to meet any notability standards or have the significant independent coverage needed for WP:GNG. As an athlete he fails WP:NSPORT because he has never competed at the highest level. He never participated at the world championships, Olympics, or even an adult European championship.Sandals1 (talk) 20:13, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
 * As a player of the German national team, he competed at the highest international level, such as in the Four Nation tournament versus Pakistan. His notability as a hockey player is documentated by significant national as well as international press publications, of which a selection is presented as a reference to the article.--Kafl (talk) 16:31, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Being on a national team is not a guarantee of notability. Lots of ice hockey players have played for their national team but had their articles removed because they didn't play at the highest level of competition (WP:NSPORT specifically cites the Olympics and world championships). As I said, there's not even an adult European championship appearance and Rentier points out he also hasn't competed at any event listed at Field_hockey. The fact that field hockey is an Olympic sport, as Kvng pointed out, just shows that playing at the Olympics was a possibility and that WP:NSPORT is not met.Sandals1 (talk) 19:18, 22 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete While working through the WP:VERIFY process in the references section, I note a lack of actual linkage to external sites. There are WP:NOR issues, affecting the tenuous WP:GNG threshold; omitting also that there are no specifically cited Field Hockey criteria under WP:NSPORT. A more clearly defined authority governing international field hockey clubs may allow for better identification of notable persons in the future. Even the reference to his business involvement in The Conversation does not specifically list or name him. Rentier made a good call: this may be a weak promotion of his business interests resting on a non-WP:GNG-passing article. Ventric (talk) 00:33, 28 December 2017 (UTC)


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