Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dirty Water Brass Band


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The result was delete. Davewild (talk) 18:26, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Dirty Water Brass Band

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I have nominated the article Dirty Water Brass Band for Speedy Deletion three separate times, on the grounds that it is about a small street band with no real significance, written by an individual with a direct connection to the band, which also constitutes as promotional. The first two times, the tag was removed by someone using a proxy IP address (I'm assuming the article's author) and the third time by someone who asserted the addition of references constituted notability.

References alone are not sufficient to make an article encyclopedic in nature and simply including a bunch of references should not be construed as establishing significance or notability.

I was instructed to use AFD to nominate this article. I don't have much experience with this, but this is my attempt to do so. Ormr2014 (talk) 19:03, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note No one [who declined the CSD] asserted that the source constituted notability. WP:A7 was declined by several editors because if any attempt at a claim of notability is made, such as the inclusion of a few reliable sources, then the article cannot be speedily deleted. This is an instance regarding ineligibility for speedy deletion over not whether notability was established. Mkdw talk 19:10, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * My apology. I misread the note when the SD was removed. Ormr2014 (talk) 19:20, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No probkem Ormr2014. It's here at AFD where it belongs. Just wanted to clarify the details for anyone reviewing the timeline. Mkdw talk 19:40, 7 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Redirect to HONK!, the festival which they play at. The scope of references suggests this is all we could note them for. I removed the WP:G7 tag that the creator placed there just now, since it's being discussed here. Ivanvector (talk) 19:42, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete/Redirect to HONK!: I passed it over for speedy deletion because they asserted notabliity in the article itself. I did review the references, and most of them mention the band in passing with respect to some festival in which they played.  The festival seemed to feature many bands, and they were not the primary/central performer in that festival. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrislk02 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete - I initially thought a redirect might work, but reading the comments below, I no longer do...  Ormr2014 | Talk
 * Delete as promotional, notability not sufficiently asserted, do not redirect to HONK. -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:08, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. All the references are about the Honk festival, with only at best a passing mention of the band, meaning the article fails even the most basic requirements for establishing notability. Thomas.W talk 18:18, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - do NOT leave a redirect. Insufficient coverage to establish notability about the band, which is mentioned in passing with relationship to to different festivals (HONK and PorchFest). Insufficient connection to either of those to justify a redirect being left from here. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 18:48, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect to HONK!. The Honk! article is a not a list article, so there is no requirement that a band mentioned as having played at it be notable (any more that it is a requirement that all songs listed in an notable album's article be notable themselves). WP:CHEAP, and also a reasonable search-term. Pax 21:17, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * @Pax - question: if a redirect, why to Honk? The article has brief mentions of the band playing two different festivals - both Porchfest and HONK!. The band does not appear to have any direct affiliation to either, just happens to have played at both. Granted HONK! is the larger of the two - is that the reason for choosing one over the other as a redirect target? --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 21:23, 8 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Does not seem to satisfy WP:BAND. That being said, I do not think HONK! is an appropriate redirect. It's a festival they play at regularly but aside from that there doesn't appear to be a strong association. It also sets a precedence I'm not keen on where festivals can create a great many redirects as long as they've had that [band] as part of their programming in a year. Mkdw talk 03:56, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Leaning towards no redirect; if the article is indeed an attempt at self-promotion, the guidelines at [{WP:REDIRECT]] would suggest that none is required. On the other hand, if the name of the band is actually a likely search term, then perhaps it may be useful. The article itself fails GNG; I cannot see any significant RS coverage. Vanamonde93 (talk) 19:03, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:24, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:24, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
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