Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Disappearance of Ali Gilmore


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Star  Mississippi  02:04, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Disappearance of Ali Gilmore

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Article on the disappearance of a lady 15 years ago. Fails WP:GNG, WP:EVENT; no evidence of lasting societal impact in this article filled with repeats of media speculation around that event. The event is clearly regrettable but it is not our role to memorialise it. Also WP:VICTIM clearly shows notability here is not achieved. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:44, 27 June 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  12:24, 4 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:38, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and United States of America. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:44, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Florida.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:27, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS and according to the WP:EVENT and WP:VICTIM/WP:NCRIME guidelines. There also appears to be a WP:BLPCRIME issue because this article heavily relies on one news source that names someone who is not a public figure as a suspect, and based on my searches online and at the WP library, they do not appear to even have been charged. Beccaynr (talk) 13:50, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, as the article has good sources. Davidgoodheart (talk) 23:09, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment To expand on the reasoning of my !vote above, WP:NCRIME is part of the WP:EVENT guideline, which is designed to help determine whether an article is sufficiently supported to avoid deletion per WP:NOTNEWS. WP:NCRIME includes disappearances, and notes that the WP:EVENT guidelines apply to sources. This article appears to have a particular problem per the WP:SENSATIONAL guideline because of its reliance on an article focusing on a suspect. However, other guidelines also appear to demonstrate this article is not well supported per WP:NOTNEWS, including:
 * 1) WP:LASTING, which includes, Events are often considered to be notable if they act as a precedent or catalyst for something else. This may include effects on the views and behaviors of society and legislation. [...] Events that have a noted and sourced permanent effect of historical significance are likely to be notable. In the Wikipedia article, there is a reference to what appears to be a lifestyle magazine, Tallahassee Magazine, which states in 2015 that Gilmore's disappearance "is one of the more well-known cold cases in Tallahassee, but there are many others plaguing law enforcement." In 2007, NBC News reports on her disappearance, more than a year later, with quotes from family, a friend, and police. There is also a post from The Charley Project blog in the article, with a website noting it "is NOT a registered non-profit organization". There is also a reference to the Cold Case Project, with no published editorial standards, specifically a post identified as a student journalism project that focuses on Gilmore and appears to summarize a previously published news source. There is also a reference to the Our Black Girls blog. There is also 2015 local news coverage of ongoing requests by family and law enforcement for information about the case. The final source in the article is from College Candy, "the leading lifestyle site for college-aged women", "the ultimate resource for the college woman looking to be entertained", "With over 100 talented student writers". I have not found better sources to demonstrate significance per the WP:LASTING guideline, and the collection of local news, blog and infotainment websites do not indicate significance per the guideline.
 * 2) WP:GEOSCOPE includes, Coverage of an event nationally or internationally may make notability more likely, but such coverage should not be the sole basis for creating an article and refers to the need to demonstrate long-term impact on a significant region of the world or a significant widespread societal group, which does not appear supported by the available sources.
 * 3) WP:INDEPTH coverage also appears to be insufficient per this guideline; with regard to Tallahassee Magazine, the guideline notes, Media sources sometimes report on events because of their similarity (or contrast, or comparison) to another widely reported incident. Editors should not rely on such sources to afford notability to the new event, since the main purpose of such articles is to highlight either the old event or such types of events generally.
 * 4) While there is WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE because reporting has continued in the form of requests for additional information and the use of her locally high-profile case to draw attention to other local cases, as well as the most recent report naming a suspect that this article primarily relies upon, her case does not appear to have been covered in a way that demonstrates the lasting significance referred to in this guideline, e.g. as an in-depth, detailed case study.
 * 5) WP:DIVERSE sources appear to be limited, including because the majority of the news is local, the blog/infotainment references are non-RS churnalism, and the scope of the national coverage is limited.
 * So I disagree that the sources are sufficient to support this article. Beccaynr (talk) 15:43, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * delete no lasting impact of the event. Loew Galitz (talk) 17:12, 11 July 2022 (UTC)


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