Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Disaster preparedness and Emergency Response Association


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. This discussion has been open for over half a month. I see no point in relisting it again (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:24, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Disaster preparedness and Emergency Response Association

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Pulled out of the db-copyvio queue because it's not a copyvio, it's a close paraphrase. Notability-wise, this one confuses me. Per their site, they've been around since 1962 and been involved in many major disaster efforts. So why does a news.google.com search for this decade only turn up links to ham radio-related publications in the first few pages for this decade? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:17, 30 March 2009 (UTC) 
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:20, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:32, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Perhaps in this case, we should break the rules and keep this article on a legitimate, not-for-profit organization that has made seemingly notable efforts to help with disaster relief for many years, but has not been recognized in online news sources. There is a fleeting mention in USA Today, and some US Gov sites also mention the organization NOAA FCC FEMA, which helps as well. — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  05:19, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem is this, however: How can we know that what an organization says about itself is actually true?  See Autobiography.  Yes, there is a WWW site that says that this organization has been active in disaster response since 1962.  But I (for example) could make that claim about myself on one of my own WWW pages, and there would be just as little reason for anyone else to believe that it is actually true.  It's not as if no-one has ever made self-inflationary, or even outright false, statements about themselves on the WWW. The mention in the USA Today article is just that: the job title of someone whose opinion on a subject is quoted.  The NOAA and FEMA pages are just bare directory entries (merely the 5 word name of the organization in the latter case).  And the FCC listing is just a broadcasting licence listing.  There's nothing to independently confirm what the organization claims about itself. Ironically, the FEMA page gives the best indication of how independent sources largely discuss these volunteer organizations: as directory entries adjuct to a non-specific discussion that addresses all such organizations collectively as a group, rather than individually. I couldn't find any independent and reliable sources, documenting this organization in depth and confirming that it really is what it claims to be, and has a concrete existence beyond a WWW site, a broadcasting licence, and some press releases, either.  &#9786; Uncle G (talk) 05:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


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