Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Discovergreece.com


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  14:00, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Discovergreece.com

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Article about a non-notable website. The sources are mostly trivial and do not raise the subject to the notability threshold required by WP:WEBCRIT. A couple of editors, including myself, have tried to redirect this page to the company article but have been repeatedly reverted. I'm proposing deletion or consensus to redirect. Based on the low page view traffic, deletion would seem to an appropriate outcome. - MrX 13:11, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. - MrX 13:12, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. - MrX 13:12, 11 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment. It also includes inappropriate external links (facebook) and reads as a promotional piece or an advertisement. That could just be how I'm reading it, though. Definitely redirect or delete. Abroham1024 (talk) 17:49, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I just removed them; that's easy to fix, and things that are fixable are not grounds for deletion (see WP:BEFORE). However, lack of notability, which is mentioned initially, is certainly a good reason. ––Agyle (talk) 09:02, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, Abroham, the tone of a piece is almost always not a cause for deletion — it is something "fixable through the normal editorial process." What matters is whether there are sufficient independently published sources extant (not necessarily included in the piece at this time) to allow the writing of an encyclopedic article with verifiable content. You are doing the right thing by commenting rather than asserting Keep/Delete until you better learn the way AfD works, excellent job going that route! best, —Tim. Carrite (talk) 15:46, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. A quick googling turned up significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources, meeting the presumption of notability standards explained in WP:N. While it's not as notable as many sites with grassroots popularity, it is of great importance to a lot of companies in the travel and advertising industries, which is reflected in the news sources that serve those industries. While the sources are not currently cited in the article, that's an issue of editing and improving the article, and is not necessary to establish the notability of a topic (the AfD guidelines at WP:BEFORE say that if an article's problems can be improved through normal editing, it's not a candidate for deletion). Some sources I found:
 * A couple paragraphs on the website in general, and a few more about Discover Greece's coverage of the island of Kalymnos (the site emphasizes a new tourist product/destination every day).
 * Just two paragraphs, plus a transcript of a speech about the website by the president of the Association of Greek Tourism Enterprises.
 * Short article on the addition of Russian, German, and French language support (it launched in just English and Greek).
 * Only a paragraph or so on coverage on the website, before it launched, but article is about the site's creator, Marketing Greece, so may have useful background info.
 * Just a press release, not indicative of notability.
 * Agyle (talk) 09:02, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Short article on the addition of Russian, German, and French language support (it launched in just English and Greek).
 * Only a paragraph or so on coverage on the website, before it launched, but article is about the site's creator, Marketing Greece, so may have useful background info.
 * Just a press release, not indicative of notability.
 * Agyle (talk) 09:02, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Agyle (talk) 09:02, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - per the evidence of this site being substantially covered by multiple, independently-publshed sources provided above by Agyle. Passes GNG. Carrite (talk) 15:46, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.