Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ditch, (magazine)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   speedy keep, likely bad-faith nomination (for more detail, see Articles for deletion/Ailsa Land) with no non-sockpuppet delete opinions. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:39, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Ditch, (magazine)

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Fails WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:NORG. 4 sources not reliable, 1st and 2nd collected from blog, other two references does not meet criteria. Riazul Islam BD (talk) 14:18, 24 August 2019 (UTC) — Riazul Islam BD (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions.   OxonAlex    - talk  14:45, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.   OxonAlex    - talk  14:45, 24 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - easily passes WP:GNG - of the sources, Open Book Toronto is a solid Canadian literary site; Sensitive Skin was a leading magazine of transgressive literature (until the death of editor Mark McCawley). There are two blogs given as sources: WP:BLOGS allows that "Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications." Ron Silliman is a well-recognized and widely published poet, critic and teacher (San Francisco State University, University of California at San Diego, etc.); Michael Alexander Chaney is a professor at Dartmouth College and the author of numerous essays (Los Angeles Review, The Minnesota Review, etc.) and several academic books (Oxford University Press, Indiana Univ. Press, Univ. Press of Mississippi, etc.); so both blogs can be considered reliable sources. Additionally, Wikipedia:Notability (media) allows that magazines are notable if they are "are significant publications in...non-trivial niche markets" - the world of experimental poetry is a notable niche market - the magazine published Asemic writing, Concrete poetry, Flarf poetry, L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E poetry, Postmodernist poetry, Transgressive poetry and other notable sub-genres by poets from Canada, USA, Europe, Bangladesh, Iceland and other places. It is a significant experimental poetry magazine. (note: I am the article creator) - Epinoia (talk) 00:56, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Delete for now clearly failed to proved any significant coverage of this magazine in reliable sources. It does not even get close to fill up WP:CORPDEPTH and also failing that, the article isn't notable either (WP:WEBCRIT). &mdash;  Masum Ibn Musa  Conversation 06:30, 25 August 2019 (UTC)  striking !vote from blocked sock of nominator. Dom from Paris (talk) 16:25, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep per Epinoia, notability seems clear enough, and while the article would benefit from more inline citations (so that every claim is visibly supported), there is plenty of evidence in its favour. Since the nominator has been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry, this AfD should be closed speedily. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:34, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


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