Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Divaldo Pereira Franco


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 07:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Divaldo Pereira Franco

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Found this as proposed deletion with the reason: "No sources cited, no assertion of notability". Now there are some claims and also some Portuguese references (as well as an entry on the Portuguese wiki), but their reliability is unclear. So brought here for wider discussion (and without recommendation.) Tikiwont 12:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletions.   -- Tikiwont 13:11, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Weak delete. I'm unclear on which notability criteria applies here. I'm loathe to put it down to "he can talk with spirits, therefore he's notable", because there's no scientific basis for that. The article implies that his religion healed his sickness, which I feel we need to avoid on a factual encyclopaedia. All I can find in the article that might assert notability is that he founded the ""House of Assistance" (Mansão do Caminho)", which although it seems a nice idea, bear in mind it orientates as well as educates. It could therefore just as easily be a Sunday school as a respected charity. Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry 15:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Lou72 14:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC) 
 * Article worthiness. If I'm allowed, I'll keep working to make this article neutral, in compliance with the guidelines and with supported facts because and convinced that it is worth it. The faculty of talking to Spirits is known as Mediumship, a concept already in Wikipedia.  But it is not his mediumship that makes this individual worth of writing about, but his role as leader of Kardecian Spiritism or Spiritism (ref:Allan Kardec), his charity work and his career as speaker for more than 60 years, invited six times to the U.N. etc., all facts that I'll try to support with reliable sources. I appreciate your help and your welcoming words.  I've been having some problems with my internet connection, but I'll get back asap.
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,


 * keep Seems notable unless this is a massive hoax. See here Portugese Wiki.  The Englich article does need clean up and better refs.Obina 09:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I have added 5 refs to the article. The multiple sources show notability.  While the statement that he can talk to spirits may not be easily verified, the statements that he is an author and speaker is.  Notable in Brazil is notable.Obina 18:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 *  Delete Not quite notable and no V. Cheers, :) Dloh cierekim   17:44, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Switch to keep, but the sources listed are still not verifiable. Perhaps if someone could re-source via the multitude of books on the subject . . . Cheers, :) Dloh cierekim   14:55, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep Seems to be notable enough and is getting sourced. Davewild 06:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.