Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Djuma Game Reserve


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The result was   no consensus. with no prejudice against speedy renomination (non-admin closure) czar   &middot;   &middot;  03:20, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Djuma Game Reserve

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The article seems to exist to direct web-traffic to the Reserve's website. The article was recently "updated" by the subject's owner which effectively turned the article into a brochure for the park, with details of the "luxurious" lodges. Having done a search, I couldn't find anything to substantiate WP:CORPDEPTH - mostly just travel guides and directories. I'm sure it's a lovely place to stay, but I can't see how it's notable. Stalwart 111  04:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect to Sabi Sands Private Game Reserve, I think it is possible to compile a decent article about the reserve: . The section "Accomodation" is promotional and inappropriate for an encyclopedic description. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 06:42, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That was my only hesitation - that there might be some coverage in Afrikaans (or another local language or dialect) that eluded me. The books in your search were basically what I found, yeah, passing mentions in photo captions and listings (as accommodation) in Lonely Planet-style travel guides and the web search includes lots of user-generated touristy stuff and little by way of significant coverage. I certainly wouldn't object to a redirect if its a useful search term, but can you highlight some of the particular sources that convinced you it should be kept (rather than broad searches)? I'm more than happy to withdraw this if you can find something I couldn't. Stalwart 111  08:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Schwerin, David A.: Conscious Globalism: What's Wrong with the World and how to Fix it, ISBN 9780976518938, p. 226-230, (Stern, in German). Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's certainly significant coverage (more than I could find) but I'm not sure a self-published book like that would be considered a reliable source. Stalwart 111  09:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * To me, it looks like an interesting point of view and an independent opinion. It adds to mentions in travel guides and newspapers and could be acceptable. Of course, our opinions may differ. Let's wait for what other editors think. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 10:23, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, and thank you for taking the time to have a look. Like I said, you found things I couldn't so perhaps others can find more. Stalwart 111  10:41, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar   &middot;   &middot;  05:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L Faraone  01:27, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


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