Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Do stars we see actually exist?


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was userfy, and delete redirect. - Mailer Diablo 07:05, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Do stars we see actually exist?
Delete personal essay. Better than a lot of them, but still not encyclopedic. --Trovatore 03:29, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * amend to userfy or delete per discussion below.--Trovatore 01:21, 3 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. Meanwhile, would it be a good idea to get rid of his email so he doesn't get spammed? -- RattleMan 03:34, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Dvyost 03:38, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, but it's rather poetic nonetheless.--Sean Black | Talk 03:41, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --rob 03:57, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Or maybe userfy, actually. I mean, it's not encyclopedic material, obviously, but at least it's not complete crap like most of the stuff we remove; maybe he'd like to keep it. (Though his assertion that famous astronomers haven't realized that these stars are actually very old is kinda, uh, presumptious. But oh well.) -- Captain Disdain 08:19, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as a personal essay. &mdash; J I P | Talk 13:34, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Userfy. This is the first edit by a new user. There is clearly potential in this user, and it wouldn't be out of place on a userpage. (Or if not, Delete.)--Apyule 14:00, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nomination, with the added comment that the technical predicates for the article are mostly correct, but the assertion that astronomers don't realize this is inaccurate. It figures prominently into cosmological theory. See Quasars, Timeline of the Universe, etc. In fact, the very fact that this is realized is what has allowed for the creation of Hertzsprung-Russell Diagrams. Time (and therefore 'young') is measured very differently on an astronomic scale. The critical analysis aspect of the article, however, shows potential, and the right kind of thinking for scientific synthesis. I wouldn't consider it inappropriate to Userfy, though with more information available, I'd think the user wouldn't want to; plus, I'm new, and therefore don't know per se what would constitute 'appropriate' for user pages. SchrodingersRoot 18:15, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or move to user page per Captain Distain Tedernst 18:50, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Userfy. - Sensor 01:50, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Userfy Otherwise, can I have it on my userpage?Crusading composer 23:33, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Userfy, because deleting it outright will only send the wrong message to the author. Andrew123 20:58, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Userfy or merge with If a tree falls in the forest and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound? Edwardian 06:46, 6 November 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.