Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doc Freemans


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep. Not only is there no consensus for the article to be deleted (which defaults to keep), the references provided by User:ThaddeusB appear to establish notability.  Malinaccier ( talk ) 01:58, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Doc Freemans

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non-notable RJFJR (talk) 04:46, 20 August 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:16, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep a quick GNews search reveals sufficient sourcing to establish notability. Examples include: "Another retail icon, Doc Freeman's, seeks protection from creditors", "Doc Freeman's hits bottom", "Venerable Marine-Supply Store in Seattle to Hold Liquidation Sale", and "Marine Store Auctioned at Liquidation Sale".  The store is also covered in about 60 books. --ThaddeusB (talk) 13:20, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - None of these sources are primary or tertiary. On top of this, there is no claim to notability in the article istelf. On top of this, is does not exist anymore and I see no reason for notability. Taymaishu (talk) 05:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Secondary sources are preferred to primary, so I fail to see why the lack of primary sources is a problem. We don't judge topics by the article's current state - if a problem can be fixed via editing, we don't normally delete the article.  Notability isn't temporary so the company being out of business is irrelevant. --ThaddeusB (talk) 14:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Neutral. Reasons to keep: It appears as though it was locally recognized at one time for being notable: "Bidders line up at bankrupt Doc Freeman's marine-store in Ballard to inspect its legendary stock of boat parts as auctioneers take bids at yesterday's liquidation sale." "Venerable Marine-Supply Store in Seattle to Hold Liquidation Sale." "'They are sort of an icon.'" "[A] marine icon on Northlake Way..." Reasons to delete: Those are three of the four sources that ThaddeusB mentioned (plus one) and I couldn't find much of anything beyond that. Also, the subject does appear in GoogleBooks as a place where certain items may be purchased, however, it is not covered there. Location (talk) 20:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- Cyber cobra  (talk) 05:00, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions.  -- Cyber cobra  (talk) 05:01, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.