Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doc Searls


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   '''Clear case of snow. Article needs some improvement, but doesn't require deletion to address issues.'''. TravellingCari 01:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Doc Searls

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No references to prove notability. Snowman (talk) 15:29, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Do we delete bios of notable people because the reference section needs a cleanup? Coauthor of The Cluetrain Manifesto -- influential and indeed over-culted business book that PC Mag calls "the book that won't die." . How about this recent article in Fast Company where they interviewed Doc and celebrated the tenth anniversary of Cluetrain?  I recommend a speedy close of this nomination. betsythedevine (talk) 17:17, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep/Comment Our habit of defaulting to printed sources (and their websites) as reliable and bloggers as not is hurting us pretty badly when it comes to evaluating subjects relating to online media. In this case, I just spent about 10 minutes playing around on Google News, and the number of dead-tree sources here is thin indeed, but Doc Searls' celebrity is obvious. This may be something to take up at Reliable source examples. See, e.g.,, for example. RayAYang (talk) 17:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * keep afd is not cleanup. doc is notable.  --Buridan (talk) 20:13, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Doc is notable as author of The Cluetrain Manifesto. AlexH (talk) 22:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * keep Doc is both notable as the cluetrain author but also due to his fellowship at the berkman center in harvard. Completely agree with RayAYang's point as well. Imajes (talk) 23:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * keep Now VRM (finally) starts to take off, you want the godfather of VRM to be taken "down" ??? Bart Stevens, iChoosr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.194.43.82 (talk) 14:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep 500k hits on google is no small event either, though in and of itself it may not mean much, but in this context it does. --Jasonnolan (talk) 23:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

offer also, i would say as an offer to keep - i will offer to write a more complete bio as long as the afd is nulled. -- Imajes (talk) 23:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep There's actually significant reliable/printed sources, but they're more obscure (and obscured) by the blog mentions -- Seth Finkelstein (talk) 03:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Doc has played a huge role in Open source - as recognized by the Google Communicator Award in 2005   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.104.161.212 (talk) 05:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep although the article needs work. However Cluetrain alone justifies the page -- Snowded   TALK  05:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep : Influential blogger, author and columnist. He inspires a lot of bloggers and techies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.64.58.156 (talk) 12:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep : Meets all the requirements to be considered a notable person: He's been quoted in a number of media, either directly or quotes from "The Cluetrain Manifesto" which was considered notable enough to deserve its own entry on Wikipedia (based on "The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, which has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews."). Currently involvement as the thought leader on VRM is another item to add to notability (based on "person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.") --TNL (talk) 14:42, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * comment : looks like this is speedy keep under wp:snowball . --Buridan (talk) 19:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep : Doc's contributions to Internet culture and blogging are, as it were, information infrastructure. They have and continue to fundamentally inform the dialogue on and about the Internet, open source, and on-line marketing marketing. --jwunderl —Preceding undated comment was added at 21:04, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: He more than qualifies under WP:CREATIVE alone. Dori (Talk • Contribs) 22:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  23:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.