Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doctor's Advocate (song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was redirect. W.marsh 20:41, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Doctor's Advocate (song)

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Article was proposed for deletion with the reason "Never released as a single, and therefore has no notability." While that line of reasoning is not always correct, it is true that there is no assertion of notability of this particular song in the article. The contester of the prod has said on the article's talk page: "This could go on to be one of the better songs of the era, you never know." However, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Delete unless evidence of notability is provided. A ecis Bravado 20:55, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to album page, unless special attention has been given to this song in third-party sources. At present, it seems like a minor song off the album and crystalballery if it only might go on to be regarded as one of the better songs. Trebor 23:39, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep This track is notable because it explains the theme for The Game's second album of the same name. It talks about the controversy between The Game and Aftermath Records and how it has affected The Game's life and relations between the involved parties.--NPswimdude500 19:07, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Got any sources focusing on it? Does it qualify under the notability guideline? Trebor 22:36, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Technically, it doesn't meet any specific notability requirement. There is third party commentary (though not as much as you would find for a single), most of which says that "Doctor's Advocate" is one of the best songs on the album. HipHopDX.cm goes as far as to say that the song "really puts Game’s behavior into perspective, painting a picture of him as a young man struggling to handle all the spotlight and drama he was suddenly thrust into." Additionally, it is commonly listed as one of the top tracks on the album in messageboards, and comment boxes (of course Wikipedia disregards forums, messageboards and user opinions in general as irrelevant and noncredible [sp?] sources, but nevertheless...).
 * Sources of [credible] third party commentary:
 * BlogCritics Magazine
 * New York Times Review
 * HipHopDX.com
 * Technically this article doesn't meet any of the notability requirements. Won't deny that. But it is regarded as one of the album's best tracks and has the most commentary on the album's main focus, The Game's conflict with Aftermath Entertainment (specifically Dr. Dre). You can delete it if you want, because there's nothing to say you shouldn't. But I think because of the song's content and the positive reviews the track has received (even if they are from "unreliable" sources), the article should be kept.--NPswimdude500 06:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * This wouldn't be getting rid of the information, just merging it to the album page. Is it really worth having a two paragraph article on a song off an album, which wasn't released as a single and otherwise has very little "special" about it. As you say, it doesn't meet the notability guidelines and since there is an easy merge available, I don't see any reason to keep it separate. Trebor 13:07, 28 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Redirect per Trebor... Addhoc 12:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.