Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doctor Who story chronology (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   EX-TER-MIN-ATE. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:14, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Doctor Who story chronology
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 * Completely original research. Article's references are attributed to inferences, observations, and speculation ("suggests", "seems", etc.). The article has admitted it is unverifiable since its inception (see the third paragraph of the lead). Previous AFD asked for better sources and none have been produced. The article self-consciously admits it can only guess.


 * Even if we weren't just guessing, this is a WP:CONTENTFORK that inherently fails the policy on what Wikipedia is not, namely not plot summaries. There are no third party sources that WP:verify notability of this chronology outside the notability of the Doctor Who series itself, and without any reception or significance this fork will fail the policy on WP:WAF. See the policy to WP:AVOIDSPLITs.


 * See this AFD for similar discussion and reasoning. Shooterwalker (talk) 04:17, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Addition from nominator: Forgot about Articles for deletion/Chronology of the Doctor Who universe (2nd nomination), which is a fork of this article with a different in-universe perspective.


 * I suggest this page not be deleted. It is constantly and meticulously updated.  It gets hundreds of views every day.  Very few entries are unsubstantiated and entries are rarely contested.  Please retain this page.  Thank you. Cumbersnatch (talk) 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Nearly completely unreferenced and infested with WP:OR. WP:NOT. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:24, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:59, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:59, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:59, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as WP:OR. Violates what Wikipedia is not as a WP:PLOT only WP:CONTENTFORK. Someone put some work into this that should be hosted at their website or at Wikia. Dzlife (talk) 17:50, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: This article appears to be original research by synthesis and there is no indication that it meets the general notability guideline by itself. This is a plot-only description of a fictional work and there is not a single reliable secondary source to presume that the topic is notable. Even the article itself mentions that the chronology is according to the personal perspective of a fictional character within the series, not from a real-world perspective, so this means that the article only has a in-universe perspective, which does not justify its inclusion in Wikipedia without reception or significance. Furthermore, the content itself has no inline references to backup the content. Instead, it has multiple notes about the interpretation of primary sources, which is original research. Even considering the article a list, notability guidelines apply to the inclusion of stand-alone lists and the subject of the list as presented in the article has not been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, it is not an appropriate for Wikipedia. As the list also fall into what Wikipedia is not, it is also not suitable for the criteria of appropriate topics for lists. Because of this, this article is redundant content fork from the several Doctor Who-related articles that alread cover the plot of the series, and, thus, this article should be deleted. Jfgslo (talk) 19:30, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Fancruft. Banish to Wikia. --John Nagle (talk) 19:54, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Only useful for a very small amount of people.  who really cares what order events occur in?  I immagine some Doctor Who fans don't even care about this. 81.2.71.33 (talk) 10:15, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Absolute fancruft. Neutralitytalk 19:20, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Exterminate! As you get towards the new season it just looks exactly like the list of Doctor Who Serials page. Overall it seems hard to understand and slightly pointless because if you know the episode order you obviously know The Doctor's timeline, because the series centers around him... so just look at the serials page... ? Betsi-HaP (talk) 04:03, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It should be noted that this article includes more than just the television episodes, but also includes novels, audio dramas, and comics, which all take place between the episodes. Many of these stories do include placement notes, others have placement made clear by the presence and absence of companions. I will grant, however, that other stories' placements aren't quite as clear, and that any precise placement of these is original research. Bartender2347 (talk) 21:53, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.