Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Documents on the Persian Gulf's name : the eternal heritage of ancient time


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The discussion as a whole, particularly as viewed by disinterested commentors, failed to rebut the assertion that the subject is not notable. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  15:56, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Documents on the Persian Gulf's name : the eternal heritage of ancient time

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Non-notable academic work. Article has been written by the book's author, or one of his cronies/meatpuppets/sockpuppets (Basp1 tends to edit only the same articles as Maahmaah). Maahmaah has identified himself to be Dr Ajam - see commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Commons:Deletion requests/Files from User:Maahmaah. Poorly constructed and written article, which serves to push POV - Maahmaah has a history of this in articles such as Arabian Sea. Bazonka (talk) 06:57, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. the book and atlas itself is an academic work but translation into English is poor . but first you didnot mentioned according to which principal it should be deleted . is it not allowed to introduce an Academic work in wikipedia? if the policy is that then i will not protest deletion. but as far as i know User Bazonka is sensitive to the issues of Arabian sea. first he refused to accept that there are other names for the Arabian sea on the maps and books and he was deleting the alternative names. yes my field of study and research is a little bit similar to Dr. Ajam but he is also a famous linguist but i am not. HE is this and i am another scholar and i will announce my name and my pages in net.soon 09:11, 2 May 2012 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 (talk • contribs)
 * @Basp1, I have no particular agenda when it comes to the Arabian Sea, Persian Gulf, etc. But what I don't like are messy and unnecessary articles. I did say why the article should be deleted - primarily because it it non-notable. You do claim the it was "among best book of the 50 year book on the Persian gulf issues in Iran", but this is not sourced. I also suspect that there is POV-pushing - one of your references is a YouTube film entitled "A Documentary exposing origins of naming fallacy of the Persian Gulf", which seems a bit biased to me. In any case, this article is a horrible mess, and if it is to be kept then it needs an awful lot of work. Bazonka (talk) 16:44, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:COI is another thing to consider. Bazonka (talk) 19:55, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:55, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * yes the book was short listed from among 800 book in the festival of 50 years books on the persian gulf. and was among 7 best book to compete for golden prize and finally another book by Pirouz Mojtahedzadeh was announced as receiving first golden  prize. and the book also have received 2 other awards. the news about this event  are in Persian.one of the link here:  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 (talk • contribs) 04:04, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * What may be of marginal notability in Iran does not necessarily equate to notability in the English-speaking world. Remember that this is English Wikipedia. Bazonka (talk) 21:15, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

remember if you continue to discourage developing of wikipedi i would complain to the managers of  wiki of your negative  action. and i have a record of your negative action.Maahmaah 15:37, 8 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maahmaah (talk • contribs) 
 * Bazonka you are abslutly wrong. Remember that this is English Wikipedia and not UK wikipedi. it belong to all scholar all around the world not to you in UK.all scholar around the world are participant in developing wikipedia English.  i think you people in UK have the less participation.
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:57, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment I'm going to attempt some aggressive copyediting. In the meantime, I would remind all participants to assume good faith, be civil, and refrain from personal attacks. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 18:31, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Having done that, here's my summary. The book isn't notable. The subject matter of the book is, and the book should be cited in any article about the subject (even though the book is definitely not NPOV). Rewrite as an article about the history of the "Persian Gulf" name unless that duplicates an existing article such as Persian Gulf naming dispute. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 18:34, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

keep it. usefull — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.182.104.24 (talk) 06:36, 18 May 2012 (UTC)  — 94.182.104.24 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — 31.7.60.181 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete Non-notable book. Badly written WP:COATRACK article. Yes, we get it already: the name of the body of water is the Persian Gulf in English. We already have a Persian Gulf naming dispute page. --Folantin (talk) 12:44, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. No indication that the book is notable, and we already have an article about the naming dispute.  Sandstein   05:03, 17 May 2012 (UTC).
 * Keep it, useful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.7.60.181 (talk) 08:06, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Some pretty obvious sock/meat puppetry here and WP:COI issues which should be investigated. --Folantin (talk) 08:12, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I suspect that these IPs are socks of User:Basp1. See his comment at the bottom of this page, in particular the use of the words "useful" and "keep it". If I had more time I would report him, but I have to go and drink beer now (clear priority). Bazonka (talk) 13:04, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

keep it usefull — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.184.243.137 (talk) 09:24, 20 May 2012 (UTC)  — 94.184.243.137 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Bazonka Sir. millions of people uses"Ok" or some other phrases the same. it is very funny to think "Keep it useful. is only used by me ! i am leaving in a far East Asia country not Iran and i really do not know those Id belong to whom and to which area or nation but i know the subject of the article  is very  interested by many Iranian.i wish nobody report this page to those Iranian bloggers of Persian gulf in that case you will see unfortunately  hundreds of person will comment in favour of this article.then you may also blame me . i really do not want this page to become politicized . neutrality is the best way. i keep silent. i even do not continue edition of the page.i am a user of Persian Wikipedia i write and edit in Persian wiki and not English Wikipedia.drink your beer cool!very cool.ice .  08:19, 20 May 2012 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 (talk • contribs)
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