Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dodge Armoured Car


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The result was   redirect to Irish Army Armoured Fighting Vehicles and delete, Consensus is there are not the extensive sources needed to keep this and the keep arguments are generally not policy grounded so this is delete but sensible search term so redirected as well Spartaz Humbug! 06:53, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Dodge Armoured Car

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Unsourced and no content other than an infobox. Google search does not show much coverage other than to confirm something called a dodge armoured car existed. Disputed prod. noq (talk) 17:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - the thing existed - built by Thompson's of Carlow; but aside from that (sourced to a blog Im afraid) I can find nothing. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 04:17, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - refs in Irish Order of Battle 1923-2004, and In time of war:Ireland, Ulster, and the price of neutrality, 1939-45. There is more related to the history of Thompson & Thompson in Carlow -- but it isn't reliable per encyclopedia standards. I think more might well be found not on line but havent access at present. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 23:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The order of battle ref has a few passing lines - not enough to make an article from - what have you found in In time of war:Ireland, Ulster, and the price of neutrality, 1939-45? I cannot find anything online from this publication. Can you say what in this publication established WP:notability? noq (talk) 00:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep It seems easy to find a source such as |Irish Army Orders of Battle 1923-2004. Colonel Warden (talk) 12:11, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment That source makes a couple of references to armoured cars based on Dodge trucks but I would suggest not enough to establish notability. Is there enough information available to make a reasonable standalone article? noq (talk) 12:33, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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 * Keep Its an important article on an almost forgotten about Irish armoured car. MFIreland (talk) 20:59, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Why is it important? noq (talk) 23:34, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Its important because its almost forgotten. A lot of people know about the other Irish armoured cars of the world war 2 era ie: the Fords and Landsverk but very few know about the Dodge. Info is hard to find and pictures is even harder to find. The photo on the article page is the only one I could find and its not a great picture. All other Irish armoured cars have a Wikipedia page like the Rolls-Royce, Peerless, Leyland, Landsverk, Fords, Panhard etc so why not the Dodge. MFIreland (talk) 16:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Although a search online and through my armour sources shows up several Dodge-variant vehicles, this is not specifically mentioned in any reliable sources that I can find. I have no doubt that the creator of the article believes that it was important, but it doesn't appear to be notable. Might I suggest creating a parent article (Irish armoured cars?) and adding all of the armoured cars in there? That, for example, is what I eventually hope to do for the various ad-hoc vehicles used by the British Home Guard during the Second World War. Skinny87 (talk) 17:20, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree with MFIreland's sentiments above ; just cannot find enough on the subject - an omnibus Irish armoured cars article might be best. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 22:19, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * A project has started on a combined article, see:Irish Army Armoured Fighting Vehicles. MFIreland (talk) 22:26, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Irish Army Armoured Fighting Vehicles. Not independently notable, but a plausible search term nonetheless. The content is already there. Alzarian16 (talk) 03:33, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.