Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dogfight flight simulator


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The result was Delete both -- Flyguy649 talk 17:50, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Dogfight flight simulator
Nominating for deletion two related articles:
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I am nominating for deletion two related articles -- Dogfight flight simulator and Electronic Sports (disambiguation). The first article is about a brand of electronic exercise bicycle that has a built in flight simulator, and the second is about the company that makes the exercise bicycle. I am nominating these articles for deletion because I believe that neither one meets the general notability guideline. I have done some searches using Google and I can find pages about the exercise bicycle, but, besides blogs and discussion forums, they seem to be on sites that are selling exercise equipment. Editors will notice that both articles read like advertising intended to promote a specific product, but in my view that's not the real problem -- that is, both articles could be rewritten to have a neutral point of view without too much trouble. Additionally, the second article is named incorrectly, but, again, that could be fixed pretty easily. It's the notability that's my concern here. I am prepared to change my opinion if someone can establish that these topics have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject and that are non-commercial in nature. — Mudwater (Talk) 13:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  00:24, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

Keep - it sounds pretty interesting actually. Heymid (talk) 14:39, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Dogfight flight simulator: delete. No signs of significant coverage in reliable sources. See . — Rankiri (talk) 15:39, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Electronic Sports: weak delete. The article is practically unsourced and I wasn't able to find any relevant coverage with Google. Google News seems to be filled with nothing but press releases and paid advertising. — Rankiri (talk) 16:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete both - couldn't find any non-press release, non-commercial sources. Heh, it reminds me of that old coin-op, Prop Cycle. Marasmusine (talk) 14:44, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


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