Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dolores Rogers (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 10:12, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Dolores Rogers
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Non-notable voice actor, fails WP:GNG because there are no national secondary sources discussing her life and career in any depth. Also fails WP:ANYBIO because no awards have been won and no other significant notice has been registered. Binksternet (talk) 19:35, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Binksternet (talk) 19:35, 11 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Note that the Arlington Times piece is a local paper. More than one source is needed, and the sources should be larger than a local paper. Binksternet (talk) 19:37, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:38, 11 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment She has a Behind the Voice Actors profile, with more roles listed than currently appear in the article. Beccaynr (talk) 20:13, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. Some potentially notable awards are listed here. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:31, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment in-depth discussion of a work in which she appears to have had several roles: How ‘Backyard Baseball’ Became a Cult Classic (The Ringer, 2017) Beccaynr (talk) 20:34, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment while ideally there should be more than one source, I don't believe sources should be dismissed because they are local. WP:GNG does not require sources to be national publications. NemesisAT (talk) 20:45, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment The stricter requirements of WP:AUD appear to apply only to WP:ORG, not WP:NACTOR, WP:BASIC (e.g. fn 4 What constitutes a "published work" is deliberately broad), or WP:GNG (e.g. fn 2: In the absence of multiple sources, it must be possible to verify that the source reflects a neutral point of view, is credible and provides sufficient detail for a comprehensive article). Beccaynr (talk) 20:53, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. The Arlington Times piece is good and appears to satisfy the requirements in Beccaynr's comment above. NemesisAT (talk) 20:57, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:NACTOR - The Arlington Times and The Ringer support criteria #1, Has had significant roles in multiple notable [...] productions, and the article can be improved with biographical and career information available from the WP:SIGCOV available in The Arlington Times and the verified acting credits from BTVA. Beccaynr (talk) 21:17, 11 August 2021 (UTC) Further support for the notability of Backyard Baseball is available from WP:GAMESOURCES RS website Den of Geek, which says it "can easily stake its claim as the best rookie game for both PC gaming and children’s titles." Beccaynr (talk) 01:39, 12 August 2021 (UTC) strike per Drmies. Beccaynr (talk) 13:33, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete or Merge - Not only is there virtually no content - no separate article is warranted - but the roles listed on her article are extremely minor roles - they're big games, but there is very little in the way of voice acting roles in the games. We're talking like minor characters in sports games saying short catchphrases like "Oh yeah, I won!" or "Aw man, this stinks". To say notability was achieved by such minor roles would be a violation of WP:NOTINHERITED. Additionally, the sourcing provided is minimal and not sufficient for a WP:BLP. Sergecross73   msg me  15:15, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * keep the edit warring by the nominator tends to cast doubt on their good faith. why would anyone improve this article, while it is in his kill zone? Hartsseeks (talk) 19:02, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Heh heh... Did you know I started the kill zone article? To be honest, I was edit-warring with sockpuppet accounts because of WP:EVADE, and I noticed in passing that this biography was not notable. Binksternet (talk) 23:10, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hartsseeks, you are going to need a better argument than that. Drmies (talk) 23:13, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirecting an article is not a sign of bad faith. Quite the opposite, it's actually an recommended practice to start by just WP:BOLDly redirecting an article, to cut down on bureaucracy of non-contentious discussions. See things like WP:ATD-R too. Sergecross73   msg me  18:01, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as per the nom, and 's excellent assessment.  Onel 5969  TT me 20:51, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete--thank you Sergecross: these are valid points. Drmies (talk) 23:13, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * And let me add that the article history shows four different sock accounts and a handful of socky IPs. If it hadn't been for this AfD I would have deleted it per G5. Drmies (talk) 23:57, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Virtualy nothing has changed since the previous AfD (which I coincidentally nominated a very long time ago). Behind the Voice Actors is essentially a listing similar to IMDB, The Arlington Times is a local pape, and The Ringer only mentions her very briefly with no detail. Other than that, there is no substantive material for any type of biography and hence doesn't meet WP:BASIC, borderilne WP:NOPAGE. --MuZemike 11:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


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