Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dom Martin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 14:12, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Dom Martin

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With (perhaps) one exception this entire article is self-sourced. Notability is claimed but not substantiated via reliable independent sources. The article is authored primarily by the artist and one of his friends. This article has been speedied twice, but this was protested by an author with a conflict of interest, so I bring it here for the community to review. Rklawton (talk) 04:31, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Per Rklawton. Promotional. I nominated the article once for speedy deletion, with rationale here . No reliable sources, conflict of interest. JNW (talk) 05:02, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete--I agree entirely with nominator. These COIs, especially when those folks refuse to address issues and simply delete tags, that really rubs me the wrong way. But even if it didn't, I don't see notability in the article, and didn't find any outside of it either. Drmies (talk) 05:11, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per above, No reliable, verifiable notability, and speedy deletion was probably the correct decision..Modernist (talk) 05:14, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Clubmarx (talk) 05:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I am the author of the subject article and have been invited by administrator Rklawton to participate on this discussion page.

Below are three references which were not appended to my original article on Dom Martin. They verify the permanent exhibition of the artwork of Dom Martin in the art gallery of the Bom Jesus Basilica (a World Heritage Monument in Old Goa, India):

http://christianartmuseum.goa-india.org/index.php?page=of-museums-and-more

http://www.dommartin.cc/Boise%20Vision%20article.htm

The first reference is to a page on the website for the Archdiocese of Goa, which contains a copy of the official brochure for the 2004 exposition of the body of St. Francis Xavier at the Bom Jesus Basilica, and states: “Art Gallery in the Basilica, featuring: a) paintings and crayons on Christian motifs by Dom Martin, well-known exponent of Surrealism, of Goan origin, now settled in the United States of America; . . .”

The second reference is to the website of the Christian Art Museum, Goa, India, which indicates: “The Bom Jesus Basilica art gallery. http://www.dommartin.cc/Basilica%20ptgs/Basilica%20ptgs%20index.htm This gallery was established in 1976 and quite easily, is the first and largest one of its kind in the eyes of onlookers. With the exception of the Archaeological Museum in Old Goa, the Basilica art gallery predates most -- if not all the galleries and museums mentioned above.” [Note the direct link on the Christian Art Museum website to the artwork of Dom Martin in the Bom Jesus Basilica Art Gallery.]

The third reference given above is to a photocopy of an article that appeared in a 1980 Boise Vision magazine [appended to Dom Martin’s website]. Boise Vision states: “In 1970, the Jesuit Rector of the Basilica, commissioned a relatively unknown painter, Dom Martin, to decorate the Basilica’s art gallery with paintings depicting the Saint’s [Francis Xavier] life as well as works illustrating other religious themes. . .”

Referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people), Wikipedia lists “Additional Criteria” for notability. Of particular applicability, under “Creative Professionals” is the criterion: “the person’s work either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition. . .” [emhasis added] And under “Any Biography”: “The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field.”

As the Basilica Art Gallery is part of a World Heritage Monument, is principally devoted to the works of Dom Martin, and has been visited by millions of people from all over the world for more than several decades, it would certainly seem that the above criteria have been met.

--Patriciamaier2 (talk) 05:55, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

"Every man is given the key to the gates of Heaven. The same key opens the gates of hell" (Bhuddist Proverb - from the movie:  Beyond the Gates, 2005)--Dommartin99 (talk) 07:23, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


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