Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dominic davis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The Bushranger One ping only 00:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Dominic davis

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Non-notable musician. Citations show signs of some local coverage from his hometown in Lansing, Michigan, and trivial mentions (listed as a member of the band backing some other singer, etc) but nothing that approaches the requirements of WP:BAND or WP:GNG. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:06, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I created this article and believe that some comments herein were as to just an early draft that was saved. Since that draft this article has been much more fully established with numerous cites from large media (not just local sources) articles, websites and even books and mentions are not just at the periphery of those sources to the point that it does meet the requirements. Moreover, Mr. Davis has for some time been included on Jack White's wikipedia page but it lacks a wiki link for Mr. Davis. Jjjssswiki ChatMe!ReadMe!! —Preceding undated comment added 21:41, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:35, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment Davis (aka Dominic Suchyta) is a childhood friend of Jack White, and has been quoted in several biographies of White. This does not make Davis notable.  He has also been mentioned in passing in several articles (every one of which Jjjssswiki seems to be intent to cite) as being involved in White's project to record some previously unrecorded Hank Williams tunes.  This project appears notable because of White's collaboration with Bob Dylan.  Davis' role as the bass player in the ensemble does not appear notable.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:45, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. There does seem concerns about notability here.  There are an excess of cites, but all I looked at either only mention Davis in passing (as a credited musician on a recording, for instance) or don't actually mention him at all.  If he is notable, where are the articles about specifically him? -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 00:11, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

I could not disagree more that Dominic Davis does not meet Wikipedia's notable requirements. He is certainly notable be it as the bass player on a major world tour as part of the Buzzardos with Jack White, a popular an accomplished artist, or his work on Saturday Night Live, David Letterman, Conan, the Colbert Report, or his work with Rock and Roll Hall of Fame artist Wanda Jackson or with Jeff Daniels. Further, I see numerous good sources, not just local media (as the first entry states), like MTV, Rolling Stone, the UK newspaper the Guardian, Reuters, the Associated Press and the Detroit Free Press as well as a number of books. I am surprised his notability is even being raised as an issue. michigan51 —Preceding undated comment added 23:11, 21 July 2012 (UTC) — michigan51 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Confirmed sock -- see WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Jjjssswiki.


 * Comment. To state "standing in the back with a bass" as WikiDan61 comments (the user who actually nominated this page for deletion and well as other pages written by the same author) shows a lack of respect for the contribution by this artist and attempts to belittle him, violating one of the 5 pillars of Wikipedia to be respectful and civil. It makes one wonder if some sort of discrimination is at work here especially considering many, many far less accomplished artists have Wiki pages of their own yet this page being argued for deletion.   As described in the article, he is a lifelong musician that not only performs with many different top artists (not just Jack White) on major international tours which include numerous national TV performances, but records with them as well.  To think that the only thing that is "notable" in music is just the headliner is to seriously misunderstand music and art.  Wiki clearly does not take that view as many artists that are not headliners have their own wiki page and are given proper respect.  Behind every headliner is a host of very talented artists working to make the headliner what they are and that does make many of them notable, particularly if the projects on which they work are as high profile as those of this artist.  And in no way is Rolling Stone, MTV, the AP, Reuters and the rest “local coverage”.  And when notability was questioned here, other large media sources were added, some of which have just this artist as the topic and interviewee, but the response from WikiDan61 was to criticize that for oversourcing.  To insultingly describe him as "standing in the back" shows that this artist's musical talents, actually playing the bass - not just standing there holding it like some buffoon, are not properly being considered.  It would be a shame if this contorted view of music and art or, worse, some sort of discrimination, were to have a role in removing clearly noteworthy artists from having a Wikipedia page. Jjjssswiki (talk) 14:16, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Jjjssswiki is strongly urged to review Wikipedia's notability guidelines and then to provide references that indicate that Davis meets any of these guidelines. To be sure, no music star or notable personality in any field achieves success alone; that does not mean that every person supporting that star is also notable.  And I will apologize if my comments were interpreted as disparaging of Davis' talents; they were not intended as such.  However, discussions here need to be kept to guidelines, not personal feelings.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

I am surprised to see that this article about Dominic John Davis was proposed for deletion. I completely agree that there are more than several notable requirements listed in this article. Dominic Davis' musical accomplishments and talents are well documented here using reliable sources per Wikipedia guidelines. Wikipedia readers, especially music professional and fans such as myself, will find this article informative and interesting. Bapplebaum2012 (talk) 13:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC) — Bapplebaum2012 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Confirmed sock. See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Jjjssswiki


 * Delete since a sample of article's cites was bereft of appropriate coverage -- and I'm certainly not going to wade through them all. If the bloviators above will point to notability-lending coverage instead sustained cries of "disrespect" and so on, I'll change my mind. EEng (talk) 12:39, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 05:12, 27 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Eeng's comments are precisely what I would have said.  Ubelowme U  Me  15:33, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.