Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dominique Cerutti


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The result was keep. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:15, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Dominique Cerutti

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Delete It appears most of the "notability" is related to a company Altran. Note: Notability isn't inherited. The references also mostly revolve around Altran news. It doesn't appear that Cerutti is notable in his own right.  HighKing++ 18:41, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: The french article proves you wrong. It sports 31 sources, several of which are reliable and centered on him (e.g., ). Regards, Comte0 (talk) 21:51, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Keep Most of the sources in the French article are also in the English article, and some are English-language sources like the Financial Times and Bloomberg. They profile him before his time at Altran, as the article makes clear. He clearly meets WP:GNG. RebeccaGreen (talk) 11:49, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: not independently notable of Altran; significant RS coverage not found. What comes up is passing mentions and / or about the company. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:26, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 13:13, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: notability isn't inherited. All the cited sources and all of the ones I find when searching firmly put Altran as the main topic and Cerutti as a side-note.    SITH   (talk)   14:14, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Essentially per . The article is already overflowing with sources.  The claims that the sources are about the company and not about the guy are surreally hard to comprehend.  In particular see Le Figaro, which predates his move to Altran by 6 whole years and also the Financial Times source, which I can't link in to via database, but has extensive coverage also predating Altran.  The citation of NOTINHERITED is a joke.  It's completely inapplicable. Sheesh. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 14:51, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * no it really isn't a joke. Nobody can claim notability is inherited from their company.  Mark Zuckerberg wouldn't be a page in its own right if the subject of Zuckerberg himself hadn't garnered significant attention e.g. 1 2 3 4.    SITH   (talk)   15:06, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It's a joke in the sense that there is literally nothing in that essay which applies here. That essay is about arguments not to make in deletion discussions and literally no one is making the argument that Altran is notable so dude is notable.  You and everyone else who wants to delete this are opposing an argument that no one is making by citing an essay that warns participants not to make the argument.  But no one is making it.  And don't forget that even if we were making it, which we're not, that's just an essay that you're citing. WP:GNG is policy and this guy meets that standard.  Hence, as I said, a joke. Oh, and thanks for your condescending example about Zuckerberg.  Did you even know that Jesus Christ himself wouldn't be notable as the son of God if he hadn't garnered significant attention in his own right?  Chew on that for a while, and then consider withdrawing your ill-founded !vote.192.160.216.52 (talk) 15:14, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean to be condescending with my example. I was actually trying to be helpful and you should assume that in future.  A friendly tip though, try to be less condescending yourself like you've done here and here.  People can disagree on things without you having to "sheesh" all over the place.    SITH   (talk)   21:19, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Going from condescension to judgmental wikistalking is a huge improvement!  Sheesh! 192.160.216.52 (talk) 21:54, 14 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Notability is sustained by many references, particularly on the French-language page FOARP (talk) 15:18, 14 November 2018 (UTC)


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