Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don Anielak


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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) 4meter4 (talk) 21:56, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Don Anielak

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Delete per WP:BIO1E. Sports figure who only played one game. [User:4meter4|4meter4]] (talk) 13:47, 16 June 2021 (UTC) Addendum also fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 17:26, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 14:28, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 14:28, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:43, 16 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep - passes WP:NBASKET in that he did appear in one NBA game. He was also inducted into the Missouri State Hall of Fame in 1989.  Kncny11  (shoot) 15:25, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment, I'm not sure if a college athletics hall of fame counts towards notability. One game is one event. Hence the nomination rationale.4meter4 (talk) 18:50, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Number of games is not relevant, One event does not cover this for athletes. Lok at the sports SSGs Rikster2 (talk)
 * I would argue that WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO1E and WP:NOT supersedes sports SNGs, and that sports SNGs need to be rewritten to be in balance with broader policy. The amount of coverage for a single game player is not likely to be in depth, and the individual's career entirely a flash in the pan within professional sports and entirely insignificant and without encyclopedic value. Essentially such articles are trivia and fancruft without actually being of any real value to an encyclopedia.4meter4 (talk) 16:04, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Show me another case where 1 event has been used successfully for athletes playing one game in a top professional league on the level of the NBA. One event is for people involved in crimes or other events that receive coverage for a short time and then disappear. Besides, Alienak was a highly-successful college player and long time high school coach in several states so not really one event anyway (which as an aside is why the basketball SSG has the one game guideline - pretty much no player is notable specifically for one NBA game, it is just that anyone making it to that level has had success and press in several arenas). As I said, the article needs sources - that is the legit concern with the article, not the inherent notability of the subject. Rikster2 (talk) 16:18, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I think this is a side issue which we can agree to disagree on. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:45, 17 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:NHOOPS. – Sabbatino (talk) 09:37, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep as he appears to meet the requirements of WP:NBASKETBALL #1. Ejgreen77 (talk) 11:20, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep - Played in the NBA per WP:NBASKETBALL. How many games is irrelevant. I will look to add some sources because that is a legit concern, but not one the article should be deleted over. Rikster2 (talk) 15:17, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * When I search the exact name on Newspapers.com I get almost 1000 hits over a 50 year period (1948 to 2003). That’s only a fraction of the actual contemporary newspapers of his day. Doesn’t sound like he’s a one hit wonder to me. I will have time to sift through those later. Rikster2 (talk) 17:27, 17 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep as he clearly passes WP:NBASKETBALL for having appeared in at least one regular season NBA game. References could be beefed up but the subject is inherently notable. SportsGuy789 (talk) 16:32, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't think WP:BIO1E applies here. The notability cut-off for basketball, in terms of the NBA at least, means that you will have been written about over and over again before you even step foot on the court. That applies to Anielak as well - he doesn't have amazing coverage, but multiple newspapers across the state of New York wrote about his very short Knicks career over a period of time, and it appears he also received some college coverage as well. Passes GNG. SportingFlyer  T · C  19:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Could you please present the specific evidence and dicuss how it's significant coverage and not simply WP:ROUTINE? Merely having name drops in news aritcles is not significant. WP:NOTNEWS applies.4meter4 (talk) 19:16, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * He's received more than name drops, those sources are already in the article. SportingFlyer  T · C  20:47, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Apologies. made many updates since I nominated the article which were not mentioned here, and the article itself is not on my watchlist. Based on what has been added. I'd have to agree with everyone here that the subject meets WP:SIGCOV. I'm happy to eat humble pie and withdraw the nomination. Thanks to everyone who participated. 4meter4 (talk) 21:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)


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