Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don Basham


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The result was keep.  Citi Cat   ♫ 23:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Don Basham

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This article was previously prodded, resulting a delete. It was nominated for speedy deletion, and although I feel it asserts some notability, I don't feel it meets WP:N.  Maxim (talk)  11:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Lack of reliable sources for WP:N. The only two refs which don't point to parts of his own book seem to involve (presumably insubstantial) mentions of a church he was involved with and a magazine he edited, rather than attesting to his own notability. Thomjakobsen 14:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Changing to a Keep: comments below seem to provide more than adequate printed sources. Thomjakobsen 11:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete no real notability established Corpx 17:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Do NOT delete! Don Basham was a key leader of an influential stream of charismatic christianity. New Wine magazine which Basham edited was the voice piece of the shepherding movement and promoted the teachings of Basham, Prince et al. - the magazine was at one time the most widely circulated charismatic magazine in the US (Synan, 2001).  The movement that he co-founded and lead had some 100,000 adherents and 500 associated churches in 1982 (Synan, 2001). Basham and the other leaders (Derek Prince, Charles Simpson, Ern Baxter and Bob Mumford) were collectively known as the "Ft Lauderdale Five".  A cursory look on the internet will throw up numerous references to Basham and the shepherding movement

Basham and this movement are analysed in numerous books, including (from the few I have):

Balmer, R., Encyclopedia of Evangelicalism, Baylor University Press, 2004

Burkes, R., Damaged Disciples: Casualties of Authoritarian Churches and the Shepherding Movement, Zondervan, Michigan, 1992

Burgess et al., Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements, Zondervan, Michigan, 1988

Diamond, S., Not By Politics Alone: The Enduring Influence of the Christian Right, The Guilford Press, London, 1998

MacArthur Jr. J. F., Charismatice Chaos, Zondervan Publishing House, Michigan, 1992

Moore, S D., The Shepherding Movement, Continuum International Publishing, Sheffield, 2004

Scotland, N., Charismatics and the New Millennium, Hodder & Stoughton, 1995

Smail et al., Charismatic Renewal: The Search for a Theology, SPECK, London, 1993

Synan, V, The Century of the Holy Spirit: 100 Years of Pentecostal and Charismatic Renewal, Nelson, Nashville, 2001

Synan, V., The Holiness Pentecostal Tradition: Charismatic Movements in the 20th Century, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 1997 Mike Orchard 09:22, 9 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.73.27.125 (talk) 09:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * keep I'm judging by the notability of the publishers, and the editorship of New Wine, which is a significant publication--that ought to have a WP article.DGG (talk) 05:16, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletions.   —Iain99Balderdash and piffle 07:36, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge into Shepherding Movement If this is the Don Basham of the Fort Lauderdale Five and the Shepherding Movement, then that is notable and is likely to be in the sources listed by Orchard above (I've flicked through Burgess in the past and know of some others, but don't have access now). Mr Basham's heyday is before the Internet Age, but a quick Google turned up a claim of 150,000 members and a typically forthright comment from the liberal Daily Kos blog. Basham himself is a borderline case. Seektruthfromfacts 08:22, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been hanging out for an article on Basham for ages. His influence was huge, and I never understood the lack of detail online esp on wikipedia.  As you can see he's been written about in countless books and encyclopedias. A.J.Chesswas 20:19, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable enough in my opinion. Could do with a wikify and more refs that are "Independent of the subject" per WP:N. -- Alan Liefting talk 08:13, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


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