Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don Schrader


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete, without prejudice to creation of a properly sourced and BLP-compliant version. WaltonOne 15:54, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Don Schrader

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This subject fails WP:BIO. He is a colorful local character who writes a lot of letters to a university newspaper, and has had one human interest feature written about him in the same paper. While I am sure he is well known around town, most college towns have at least one if not several characters around that are just as known locally. That does not make them notable enough for an inclusion in a global encyclopedia. Crockspot 16:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Note This article was previously deleted under an expired prod, and was restored upon dispute of the prod. - Crockspot 16:07, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Only independent source is the university newpaper to which he writes his letters.  NN.  Cap'n Walker 16:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep This is a bit of a mis-characterization of Don Schrader. Don is much more than just the local crackpot that the students know about. I daresay there aren't many Albuquerque natives who don't know who Don is. True, most of his letters are published in the Daily Lobo, which I'd guess is due to the fact that the Lobo has the most liberal standards for letters of any local publication, but he also frequently publishes in the Weekly Alibi which is the Albuquerque equivalent of the Village Voice or Chicago Reader. And sure, it's not like the TV news networks have a "Don beat" (although if he died it would be big news) and his fame isn't as conventional as, say, Mayor Martin Chavez's. Nonetheless, Don has been steadily accreting fame for nearly two decades and he is considered as much--probably more--of an iconic Albuquerque figure as our current mayor. I think you ought to err on the side of not deleting the article. It's a little hard for people not from Albuquerque to grasp the significance of Don. Hopefully someone will come along who can explain it better... Oh, and when the Shins--a band whose latest album debuted on the Billboard charts at 2--returned to Albuquerque for a concert, guitarist Dave Hernandez announced to the crowd, "It's great to be back home. Feels like we're hanging out in the living room with Don Schrader." Tochariana 00:47, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm busy through August 17, but the following weekend I'll head down to the UNM library and put together a bibliography on Don that includes more than just his Daily Lobo letters. Think you can wait that long? Tochariana 17:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This AfD will probably close by then, but at this point in time, there is not a consensus to delete. - Crockspot 15:58, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete This poor-sourced article appears to exist, and cites materially primarily to corroborate, the working assumption that the subject is -- in the words of its supporter -- "a local crackpot." This nears qualifies as a G10, and raises severe BLP concerns. I will not speedy delete the article at this time, but I will blank and protect it (per standard BLP practice), and I urge the eventual closer to contemplate seriously BLP concerns, in addition to the obvious triviality of the sources provided. Xoloz 14:22, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.