Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don Webb


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Even completely disregarding the single-purpose activity, clear consensus for retention among a cross-section of the community. –MuZemike 23:19, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Don Webb

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Unsourced BLP does not establish notability. Contested prod (removed by IP editor). Yworo (talk) 23:15, 7 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep It's hard for me to imagine this is even a topic under discussion, given the author's prolific output, his major (and minor) publishing work, his place in the '90s zine publishing world, his numerous writing honors, and his roll is a significant alternative religious organization. Terranull (talk) 04:25, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Webb is the author over a dozen books, several of them from a major publisher (St. Martins), and his stories have been selected by Ellen Datlow and Gardner Dozois for their respective year's best anthologies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.114.129.203 (talk • contribs) (note: IP geolocates to Austin, Texas where the subject resides)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:40, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep with improvement - subject is pretty clearly notable (per above IP), article needs reference improvements though - David Gerard (talk) 13:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - I've added some citations. Subject's notability is established by range of reprints of his writing, plus IHG nomination (not a minor literary award).Shsilver (talk) 13:28, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - Don Webb is widely admired among readers and critics (around the world) of avant garde and experimental fiction and of literary horror fiction. It is not suspicious in itself that someone from Austin put up the initial entry on this page: there are 786,000 people in Austin,and I would bet there are a minimum of 10,000 computer-literate people in Austin who know Don Webb and his work. His religious beliefs, however unorthodox, are also a legitimate part of his biography. There is nothing here to indicate that Webb himself wrote this. It is written in the Wikipedia style, not in Don Webb style, believe me. Furfish (talk) 20:24, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - This author is noteworthy due to the particular avant garde style of his contribution, over and above merely being a published author and beyond being nominated for significant honors. The official Temple of Set website continues to feature his writings as part of their explanation of their organization, therefore, he is an authoritative expert on the Temple of Set and its distinctive theology. His year of birth is not in doubt either - 1960, referenced on numerous websites and listings and never contradicted by him. higherednerd (talk) 21:30, 8 October 2010 (UTC) — higherednerd (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep - I also feel this author has a body of work significant enough to be retained in Wikipedia. His volume of output itself justifies inclusion. BaghwanB  —Preceding undated comment added 22:24, 8 October 2010 (UTC).  — BaghwanB (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions.  —Shsilver (talk) 22:45, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep as author of a dozen novels, many from major publishers, easily crosses the notability line. - Dravecky (talk) 23:35, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Easily notable. Not to my taste, but that's not important. htom (talk) 23:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep: Notable - Ret.Prof (talk) 03:07, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Definitely notable. I suspect the autobiographical tag referred to an old version of the bio, which was possibly (note: possibly) written by people affiliated with the Temple of Set. Much of that original content was deleted, and the bio is now a hodge-podge of tidbits from a large number of contributors. Madamecp (talk) 07:28, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Nominated for a major award (International Horror Critics), and has had several stories selected for anthologies including The Year's Best Science Fiction and Year's Best Fantasy and Horror. Being selected for those anthologies meets criterion 1 of WP:AUTHOR, "being regarded as an important figure [...] by peers". The same might be said for his being selected as the Guest of Honour at several horror conventions (though that's a weaker claim, because I'm not familiar with the "Death Equinox" conventions and don't know how narrow the field is). His books have been reviewed fairly extensively, I think. Not my genre or to my taste, but that's utterly beside the point. --bonadea contributions talk 09:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Agree on all points with previous commenter. As a general principle it seems better to fix entry flaws than rush to delete. --DeafMan (talk) 15:06, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I've been a short story editor for over thirty years and Don Webb's contributions to the field of sf/f are certainly notable. User:datlow —Preceding undated comment added 03:48, 10 October 2010 (UTC).
 * Comment - Before I vote, could somebody please explain why they think that the sources provided in this article meet WP:RS? I'm leaning towards a weak delete, but seeing as there's such overwhelming opposition to that proposal, I'd like to hear an opinion. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 19:11, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Partial Response to Comment I'm not sitting here digging through all of the references, but a few immediately leap out. Locus is one of the most established Sci Fi literary magazines.  The Locus and Internet Speculative Fiction Databases have both been active and reliable sources for partial bibliographies for well over a decade. The UCLA bio for Don Webb is a University (of California) program instructor bio, on the University web site.  While Council for the Literature of the Fantastic is a newsletter, it is a newsletter published by a University English department (University of Rhode Island this time).  The entry was written by Paul DiFilippo, who is a CLF contributing editor and who is also a notable author.  Some of the references might be better as external links (and most of the books could have ISBN #s added), but there are some good ones in there. Madamecp (talk) 20:55, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep:. Don Webb is also noted for his online teaching in the writing certificate program at UCLA. His courses in fantasy and science fiction writing, and especially his course on writing great villains, are invaluable to up-and-coming writers. User NShulerphd 67.207.226.168 (talk) 02:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I've read Don Webb for years. He does some great horror. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.12.167.177 (talk • contribs)
 * Strong Keep: Speaking as an editor who has reprinted Don Webb's work in my Year's Best Fantasy 8 volume (see http://www.tachyonpublications.com/book/YearsBest8.html ), Don Webb is certainly notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. --Pleasantville (talk) 16:45, 14 October 2010 (UTC) aka Kathryn Cramer
 * keep for same reasons Aisha9152 (talk) 17:00, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.