Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Fear


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (British game show). Most of the keep !votes are substanitally lacking in policy and reason. After discounting them, there's a rough consensus to redirect. If he does become notable in the future, the article can be easily recreated. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:09, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Donald Fear

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non-notable person. being the sixth person to win something on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire might be an impressive dinner story but it doesn't make him notable. There is a complete lack of in depth coverage as well. Praxidicae (talk) 19:54, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Failing to comply WP:N, WP:Basic per nominator. --Mamushir (talk) 20:07, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, all of the sources either are unreliable, interviews, or don't mention him directly. Won a game show, but that's WP:BLPONEEVENT. Hog Farm Bacon 20:24, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep He’s only going to become more notable. May aswell keep the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:7A9B:A100:1524:E735:CED6:3FD1 (talk) 20:36, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * That's like saying "give me a credit limit of $500k because I might win the lottery one day." Praxidicae (talk) 20:37, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You don’t play the lottery 2A02:C7F:7A9B:A100:1524:E735:CED6:3FD1 (talk) 20:41, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You're correct but my argument is spot on. We don't rely on the potential for future notability. Praxidicae (talk) 20:42, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Ahh yes, Wikipedia, the site where everyone contributes knowledge for everyone to know! Unless, of course, someone would prefer to take time out of their day to say they'd rather deprive you of it. Fancy looking up the six winners of a Gameshow spanning over 20 years who's wins have been highly documented? Yeah, tough. Some bloke said so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurugby54 (talk • contribs) 22:22, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep All other winners except one have them. He has already made headline news in the UK and there is no harm keeping the article - it's not like Wikipedia has a limit on the amount of information it can retain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurugby54 (talk • contribs) 22:04, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable General Knowledge. I often look back at Big Brother contestants for example. Would be annoying if I didn't know their names.  62.31.81.43 (talk) 00:30, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Who Wants to Be a Millionaire%3F (British game show) per WP:TOOSOON, and frankly I'm having my doubts about Ingram Wilcox as well.-- Laun chba ller 22:17, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge while keeping all necessary information in the merged section - this person is the first person to have won and used only one lifeline. I know that people are usually not considered notable for 1 event, so maybe all WWTBAM winners should be merged into one article (except for the ones who are notable for other reasons as well). 45.251.33.48 (talk) 03:36, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - A WP:ONEEVENT person. I hope the closer is keeping note of all the mysterious IP editors who are participating in this discussion. -Indy beetle (talk) 07:26, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - Donald Fear is notable as he has made headline news around the UK. He will only become more notable in the same way that the other 5 jackpot winners of the show have. The absence of reliable sources can be addressed, and I will try to add as many as I can find soon. The fact that his brother also competed on the show last year means that the Wikipedia article is not just about Donald Fear's singular appearance on one games show. Bibeyjj (talk) 08:06, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I have added references, expanded and rewritten certain sections, and generally made the majority of the article well-referenced. It has grown to a size where the stub categorisation could potentially be removed. The article has improved significantly since the deletion request was first addressed, and I encourage users to reconsider whether Donald Fear is not notable enough for an article. Bibeyjj (talk) 08:53, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - As mentioned above, all but one of the other winning contestants have articles. I realise that Keppel and Gibson have since gone on to become Eggheads which increases their notability, but Edwards and Wilcox have articles seemingly solely due to winning the jackpot on the show, so why should Fear’s article be any different? Mojo0306 (talk) 09:58, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.-- Laun chba ller 10:02, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, as WP:1E, nothing Fear has done meets WP:ANYBIO. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:48, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (British game show): He's notable for one event, i.e., winning a quiz show, so let's have a link directing readers to that quiz show. This is Paul (talk) 17:47, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as there are enough sources around covering Fear and his win specifically, such as this profile in the i. Andysmith248 (talk) 23:21, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable General Knowledge. He is the first person to have won used only one lifeline; otherwise delete all other articles on winners. John Jones (talk) 15:22, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. There's only a few Millionaire winners, it's a very well known show, there's articles about the other winners, and plenty of sources. Also, as others have noted, Fear is notable for having won using only one lifeline. odg (talk) 16:36, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep As others have said, Fear is notable for his win by only using one lifeline and is also the only winner to have not had an audience in the studio. He is also the first million pound winner with Jeremy Clarkson hosting the show. The article does appear to be well referenced. Commyguy (talk) 22:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (British game show). Refbombing stories about his win doesn't make him notable either. Dougal18 (talk) 10:20, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - Only known for one event, but said event has a fair amount of coverage. Foxnpichu (talk) 13:59, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * REDIRECT to main page One event applies here. Outside of this event he life is not notable. Some people have said all the other winners have one therefore we need to keep this one. Really? Because Robert Brydges doesn't have one. Wilcox needs deleting as fails BLP as no sources and is just a repository of his tv appearances. Ditto for Edwards fails one event and a list of TV apperences. Games of the world (talk) 23:02, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * By main page, you mean the Who Wants to be a Millionaire? page, right? Foxnpichu (talk) 21:55, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.