Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Henry 'Bob' Burns


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete.  K ilo-Lima|(talk) 18:45, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Donald Henry 'Bob' Burns
Delete This article´s dispute is due to Original research, see Talk page. The article was listed PROD, but will need consensus, due that the dispute is just between me and the original researcher. Francisco Valverde 13:01, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Further To Above I've removed the prod, and made changes to the article. The article is till subject to discussion, and a wider consensus. In the mean time, I've listed a few external references. Not much is online, probably due to Burns having died ashortly before the internet took-off. The Guiness Book of World Records website doesn't appear to list the record for loudest human voice. A great many print sources are undoubtedly availible, as Burns was the subject of countless newspaper and magazine articles. He also appeared often on television in North America. Print references will be forthcoming. Seán Pòl Ó Creachmhaoil --Aodhdubh 13:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per lack of verifiable information from Reliable sources and proxy violation of WP:NOR. This article's text is adapted from a geocities page.  Other external links make mention of Burns, but indicate nothing more than his existance.  If this can be verifiably sourced I will reconsider, but right now it's basically original research posted on geocities then posted here with a reference back to the site containing the original reseach.--Isotope23 16:26, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * research that consists of collecting and organizing information from existing primary and/or secondary sources is, of course, strongly encouraged I would be interested to know more about where this information originated before I called it original research as differentiated from research based on primary sources that the author may have unique access to. Thatcher131 16:44, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Point taken. As I said above if sources are provided (and per the author's statements this may have to take the form of printed sources) I'm completely willing to retract my deletion opinion.  WP:V and WP:RS are the biggest problems here, IMO.--Isotope23 17:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Comment You should not try to delete articles when you are having a content dispute. That said, I fail to see where the article asserts the notability of the subject. What were his military accomplishments that set him apart from other soldiers who served in WWII and retired with the rank of Major (or are all Majors notable)? Other than that, he is listed in the Guiness Book with the loudest voice. Regardless of whether this is original research, person seems non-notable. Thatcher131 16:41, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOR. Stifle (talk) 21:03, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


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