Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Isler


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. No further arguments by nom in the last 3 weeks, nor by the only nom supporter. NYT article pointed out later, and was only met with recommendation to keep. (non-admin closure) Dr. Universe (talk) 17:36, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Donald Isler

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Non-notable pianist. Only source of notability I can find online is critics' reviews. SɱαɾƚყPαɳƚʂ22 (Ⓣⓐⓛⓚ) 19:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:02, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:02, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:19, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Of course, the article should not be deleted.
 * Isler gave concerts in well-known concert halls (Carnegie, Symphony Space), which were reviewed in renowned newspapers (NYT).
 * He appeared on reputable radio programmes (WQXR-FM, WWFM).
 * He has recorded 5 CDs which have been reviewed in professional journals.
 * He teaches at a well-known school ( Hackett Hackley).
 * All this combined means to me that he is "notable".


 * By the way, the article exists on the German Wikipedia since 14 April, and it will soon appear on the French one as well.--Peteremueller (talk) 11:58, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, and? That doesn't automatically mean it is worthy of the English Wikipedia. Best wishes – SɱαɾƚყPαɳƚʂ22 (Ⓣⓐⓛⓚ) 13:55, 6 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Opposed to the deletion of this page. This artist debuted at Carnegie Recital Hall. Another overreach by this editor. Valueyou (talk) 11:14, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The fact that he deubuted at a certain venue doesn't give an ounce of notability. Best wishes – SɱαɾƚყPαɳƚʂ22 (Ⓣⓐⓛⓚ) 13:54, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You clowning? From the Carnegie Hall page "Carnegie Hall...is one of the most prestigious venues in the world for both classical music and popular music..." KEEP IT - with best wishes back to you Valueyou (talk) 14:12, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That's not an argument against deletion; the venue doesn't give inherent notability to the person. Best wishes – SɱαɾƚყPαɳƚʂ22 (Ⓣⓐⓛⓚ) 15:26, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * To address the nomination statement, our notability guidelines say that a subject is considered notable if there is significant coverage in independent reliable sources. There is no additional statement saying "apart from those sources that are the most likely to exist for the subject", which, in this case, are reviews. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete There are no claims in the article that make the subject likely to meet WP:MUSICBIO The references on the article do not clearly meet WP:GNG, my search for references found several promotion and/or trivial mentions. I do not see any evidence that the subject is Notable per English Wikipedia criteria. Jeepday (talk) 17:41, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 23:37, 12 May 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Any more thoughts on passing general notability?
 * Keep the dedicated New York Times piece is a clear sign of notability together with the other reviews already in the article so deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 01:13, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 15:36, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per the New York Times piece, and also as founder of the label Kasp Records. Daiaespera (talk) 12:44, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree with Daiaespera. We shouldn't ignore the NYT reference Mommmyy (talk) 17:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.