Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Maclean of Brolas


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The result was   redirect. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:59, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Donald Maclean of Brolas

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Contested prod. Fails WP:BIO. Only mentions are short genealogical entries, no significant coverage of who he was or what he is supposedly notable for. Only, very relative, importance lies in his relatives, which aren't extremely notable either. Fram (talk) 09:57, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:32, 2 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete The coverage doesn't meet BIO, especially because it lacks any depth whatsoever. Appearance in a published genealogy does not do it. Novaseminary (talk) 17:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * keep. Seems to have been a gentleman. Barney the barney barney (talk) 22:14, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Any policy) or guideline-based reasons you want to keep this? "Being a gentleman" isn't really sufficient. Fram (talk) 08:08, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Not as famous as his great-grandfather, but still a notable figure in the history of Clan Maclean. Plenty of book references. -- 202.124.75.242 (talk) 01:21, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * So note some of those sources here, establishing how they meet WP:BIO, and we can all agree on notability. But bald assertions about him being a "a notable figure in the history of Clan Maclean" don't meet BIO. Novaseminary (talk) 04:27, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sources are available at the search links above, as the IP editor indicates. If you haven't look at these then your opinion on the question of notability is uninformed and therefore worthless. Warden (talk) 09:19, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable clan laird as he appears in numerous histories. Warden (talk) 09:19, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:LOTSOFSOURCES. Novaseminary (talk) 22:12, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:VAGUEWAVE. Warden (talk) 22:17, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've looked and can't find anything other than the geneology-type sourcing already in the article. I will hapily change my !vote if somebody just notes some coverage of the depth that WP:BIO calls for. But I fear "your opinion on the question of notability is uninformed and therefore worthless." Novaseminary (talk) 22:29, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Laird of Brolas Where GBooks references are not effectively genealogical, they seem to be either for Donald Maclean, 1st Laird of Brolas or for Donald Maclean, 3rd Laird of Brolas. The sons of the current subject of the article are notable, relatives who share his name are notable but his personal notability is at most not proven. Laird of Brolas already mentions not only both of the other Donalds but also the current subject of the article, in probably about the right amount of detail. PWilkinson (talk) 23:50, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I would support such a redirect as an alternative for deletion. And Pwilkinson's post highlights a point I should have made earlier. I think the keepers might be focused on the wrong Maclean. But since they refuse to actually point to any particular source, we don't know. Novaseminary (talk) 03:52, 5 February 2012 (UTC)


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