Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donatus Kaufmann


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Editors opining here are reminded that the existence of reliable sources discussing the subject is not enough for notability. There must be reliable sources that discuss the subject substantively. Passing mentions do not qualify, and arguments based on those are going to be ignored or given less weight. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:36, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Donatus Kaufmann

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Very far from meeting WP:BIO. I am unable to find any substantial coverage of the subject in reliable sources. SmartSE (talk) 13:42, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. SmartSE (talk) 13:42, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

I found some substantial coverage and put it in the article. Among others from The Wall Street Journal. The structure of the article very similar in to other board members. E.g. Dieter Zetsche. Kaufmann is a board member of an industrial legend Thyssenkrupp. There he is also responsible for North America. He is also Vice President of the American Chamber of Commerce in Germany. Kaufmann is member of the Atlantic-Brücke as well.Riesling2013 (talk) 6 September 2019 —Preceding undated comment added 15:05, 6 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails WP:BIO. This is a resume, not an encyclopaedia entry. Simon Wright (talk) 14:02, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Almost all subject reference are from reliable source such as Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post Deutsche Welle, Reuters, Bloomberg News and German Manager Magazin ore Manager Magazin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8071:AC4:D400:8119:5DFB:BC66:D1C0 (talk) 15:07, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep These biography of a board member of a German DAX company, ThyssenKrupp, has the same structure as the biographies of the following other board members: For example Lisa Davis (businesswoman) (Siemens), Andreas Renschler (TRATON VW), Peter Schwarzenbauer(BMW), Kasper Rørsted (Adidas), Timotheus Höttges (Telekom), Bill McDermott (SAP), Ola Källenius (Daimler AG), Dieter Zetsche and Jürgen E. Schrempp former CEOs. Kawumm2012 10 September 2019 —Preceding undated comment added 12:52, 10 September 2019 (UTC)  — Kawumm2012 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:06, 11 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Strong References and same relevance like other Board Members. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.187.101.62 (talk) 18:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. The sources do not have the necessary depth to meet WP:BIO. As an example, take the Wall Street Journal reference that has been highlighted. This is simply a directory entry. It is one of no less than 40 such entries on Thyssenkrupp executives. As an obiter dictum, all the 'keep' views have been made by accounts/IPs with little or no other contributions. 2A02:C7F:4481:8300:90DC:E235:5074:54B0 (talk) 20:22, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm relatively new to Wikipedia. I have already tried to improve the quality of this article. I think this entry is uncritical because it has more and better sources than many other articles from top managers. That was rejected here. So I looked for more references and added them. I observe this here and take part in the discussion to contribute and learn. According to Wikipedia only arguments count. So I'm surprised that this article is up for discussion at all. Riesling2013 (talk) 19 September 2019 —Preceding undated comment added 12:55, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. We don't publish resumes.  I looked at the first three references in detail, on the assumption that those are the most important.  The WSJ is just a directory listing.  Reuters and DW are both passing mentions.  Fails WP:NBIO.  -- RoySmith (talk) 21:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Roysmith fails WP:ANYBIO.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:23, 19 September 2019 (UTC)


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