Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donghua Liu


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Sjakkalle (Check!)  13:55, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Donghua Liu

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Almost-notable businessman currently enjoying his fifteen minutes' fame on the local blogs. Page is a magnet for BLP violations, not just of Liu but of people he has allegedly done business with. Listing at AFD to nip these problems in the bud Daveosaurus (talk) 05:34, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. Daveosaurus (talk) 05:48, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Comment: New Zealand is currently in the build up to the New Zealand general election, 2014; immigration and campaign funding are issues; Donghua Liu is a recent immigrant who may or may not have given to one or two political parties. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:07, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Having reviewed the extensive .nz coverage I'm not seeing any depth of coverage of Donghua Liu. It's conceivable that there's Chinese language coverage (https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=%22Donghua+Liu%22+zealand+site%3Acn seems to give a lot of likely hits) but I'm not in a position to evaluate that coverage and it's unclear how much is a translation of the .nz coverage back to .cn rather than real coverage of his life before he came to .nz. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:34, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  Philg88 ♦talk 08:16, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete for the sake of BLP s everywhere. Mr. Guye (talk) 10:39, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Someone is notable for unspecified "controversies" which the sources show are WP:BLP1E concerning a current political campaign. Please recreate this article after the election, providing sources showing WP:N and suitable for writing a BLP are found. Johnuniq (talk) 11:15, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Strong delete - spectacularly non-notable. ukexpat (talk) 14:33, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:44, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:BLP policy, and because there is no evidence of any long-term notability of this individual. If there is a significant political scandal, it needs due and proper coverage in articles on the politicians concerned. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:44, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. I meant to !vote when I did the DELSORT listing. Philg88 ♦talk 18:09, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - not super worthy of a wikia life story. Puppet was writing attack story - banned now - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Arf%C3%A6st_Ealdwr%C3%ADtere - Mosfetfaser (talk) 18:28, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, even absent the BLP problems, I'm not seeing a compelling case for notability. Worth a brief mention in Maurice Williamson as being involved in his downfall, but otherwise that's about it.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 22:31, 25 June 2014 (UTC).
 * Delete. In its current state the article makes no claim of notability. It used to have another sentence, containing the magic word "notable", but it was ridiculous. Bishonen &#124; talk 09:33, 26 June 2014 (UTC).
 * Delete as should be covered in the 2014 election, Williamson, and Cunliffe articles. A one-off issue, not notable of itself. NealeFamily (talk) 15:23, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep He's received a large amount of coverage re Williamson and Cunliffe (which are two separate issues - not one offs!). There was attention paid to him specifically when it turned out his initial statement to the New Zealand Herald was inaccurate. Ballofstring (talk) 04:36, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * When you say "his initial statement to the New Zealand Herald" do we have anything but hearsay that this statement exists and / or contains any specific claims? My understanding is that it was not public. Do we have any evidence that he's ever said anything publicly about any anything? Stuartyeates (talk) 09:08, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  07:29, 3 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Any claim to notability is inherited, failing WP:INHERITED, also fails WP:NTEMP as there is no indication of ongoing notability. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 08:07, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.