Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donkey (Shrek)


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The result was speedy keep. Nominator has withdrawn their nomination and no editors have voted to Delete this article so I'm closing this discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 03:23, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Donkey (Shrek)

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Im open for any criticism, but I think there are only few reliable sources about this character. Recent source only shows this I think. GlatorNator (talk) 11:29, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 12:31, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:52, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep 1 I don't seem to have access to this, but it appears to be entirely about this character. 2, and 3, from which I quote in part: "One of these beings, a talking donkey, is not so much like a fairy tale character as he is like the central figure in the second-century novel The Golden Ass by Apuleius (1994) (a devotee of the Green Goddess Isis). Donkey persists in accompanying Shrek, first as an unwelcome sidekick and later an essential friend." "Key to his emotional rescue is his friendship with Donkey, the talking ass. Shrek, voiced by Mike Myers, has a Scottish accent. Donkey, voiced by Eddie Murphy, has an unmistakably African-American style of speech. This conventional pairing of white hero and darker sidekick is a problematic aspect of Shrek. First of all, the pairing is a common one reflecting racial hierarchies. Moreover, Donkey (who apparently has no other name)7 is characterized in ways that draw upon some stereotypic “coon” associations (Pilgrim, 2000)—the African-American man as a figure of comic relief, one who is vulgar, shiftless, cowardly, and dominated by women. These racist representations are projections, telling us nothing about African-Americans but instead, pointing to traits whites fear or reject in themselves in order to maintain a view of themselves as more “properly” gendered, rational, civilized, and superior." And it goes on from there... Thus, multiple academic (independent, reliable) RS'ed discourses on Shrek covering this character in a non-trivial manner, GNG is met, and editing can fix any problems which remain. Jclemens (talk) 17:59, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep I found what's most likely WP:SIGCOV in The Fantasy Film by Katherine A. Fowkes (p. 121-123), as well as significant mentions in Investigating Shrek and other books, such as what has been mentioned above. Donkey is mentioned a lot as a controversial figure and there is enough for a pretty large reception section on him. See also WP:NEXIST. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Withdraw I would like to Withdraw. GlatorNator (talk) 23:24, 25 February 2023 (UTC)


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