Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donnie Snook


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:46, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Donnie Snook

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Municipal councillor in a city not large enough (population less than 75K) for its municipal councillors to count as notable per WP:POLITICIAN — with very rare exceptions which normally require far more detail and sourcing than has been provided here, we normally only allow councillors in major metropolitan cities with populations in the millions, such as Toronto or New York City or London. This was previously tagged for prod, but an anonymous IP removed both that and notability without providing any explanation or any improved evidence of notability. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 21:39, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 21:46, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:29, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete without a better claim to notability, being a city councillor in Saint John isn't enough on its own. Hairhorn (talk) 02:55, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Dont Delete if Toronto can have councillors on wikipedia so should all Canadian City`s. The issues with tagging seem to have been resolved an as for a city having to be as large as toronto or new york city to have councillors on wikipedia thats absolutley bogus wikipedia is for people to get information this should be on here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.134.149.94 (talk) 13:34, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * There's a long-established consensus that city councillors are not fundamentally notable in principle. An exception has been made for cities with populations in the millions, since they typically become at least as well-known outside their own city as they do inside it — but in a city with only 60,000 or 70,000 people, councillors don't attain the same degree of national or international media attention, which is why most city councillors are not notable enough. And that same thing applies to the United States; by virtue of the city's size and the volume of broader media coverage that its municipal politics get, councillors in New York City are more notable than councillors in Alpena, Michigan or Julesburg, Colorado are. A city the size of Saint John is certainly permitted articles about its mayors, which is why I salvaged Shirley McAlary and Bob Lockhart instead of nominating them alongside this one — but regular city councillors are only notable in exceptional circumstances, not as a rule.
 * Also, please note that while you're free to post further comments in the discussion if desired, you only get to "vote" once — accordingly, your two separate back-to-back "don't delete" votes have been merged into one comment. Bearcat (talk) 22:09, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete, fails notability guidelines as stated in the nomination.  PK  T (alk)  22:10, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.