Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dorian Hawkmoon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to The History of the Runestaff. Consensus exists not to retain this as a standalone. As suggestions have been made to export to a fandom wiki, or to potentially merge the content elsewhere on-wiki, I am redirecting to The History of the Runestaff without deletion. No prejudice against retargeting the redirect to a "list of characters" type article if one gets made. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Dorian Hawkmoon

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This article fails to establish notability. TTN (talk) 12:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 12:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 12:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep The BBC are working on a televised version of the Runestaff series and Hawkmoon is the hero so we'll be hearing a lot more about him. Policies which mandate retention include WP:ATD, WP:NOTPAPER and WP:PRESERVE. Andrew D. (talk) 14:13, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:CRYSTAL. There are plenty of shows where none of the characters receive any attention whatsoever. The series would need to be GoT-level to automatically expect notability to be established for major players. If there happen to be enough non-clickbait articles about it, it can be recreated at that time. TTN (talk) 14:40, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: - a viable option may be to create a list page for the characters or creating a list section on the main page for the series. This could redirect there and when/if the coverage comes about, it can be restored. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  19:27, 10 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete Lack of substantive sources establishing notability of the topic, perhaps some can be merged to The History of the Runestaff. Fun fact! WP:NOTPAPER doesn't "mandate retention", it actually says "Consequently, this policy is not a free pass for inclusion: articles must abide by the appropriate content policies". WP:ATD also doesn't mandate retention, it allows for merging and is on the page that explicitly says "Articles whose subjects fail to meet the relevant notability guideline" is grounds for deletion! Reywas92Talk 19:49, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Transwiki and delete. If he becomes notable, we can restore it. For now he fails WP:NFICTION. But our entry seems better than https://stormbringer.fandom.com/wiki/Dorian_Hawkmoon ; please consider copying content there first before nuking this. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:01, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete or Redirect to The History of the Runestaff - The character currently does not have the coverage in reliable secondary sources needed to sustain an article, and suggesting we keep it because he might become notable later due to the upcoming show is pure WP:CRYSTAL. I was initially going to suggest that redirecting to the article on the series he was the main character of was a sensible solution, but actually looking at that article and for sources on it revealed that it was pretty bare bones in terms of notable coverage itself.  So, in the end, I am fine with either option.  Rorshacma (talk) 16:45, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Draftify until enough RS is collected to move into main space.4meter4 (talk) 19:12, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.