Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dorien Bryant


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 03:24, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Dorien Bryant

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Fails WP:ATHLETE. Article does not make any assertion of notability. Athlete went undrafted, and has never played in the NFL. Tool2Die4 (talk) 21:14, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:ATHLETE requires the player to actually play in a game, thus he fails it.-- Iamawesome800  Talk to Me   21:15, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Wow, didn't notice he was a 3x all big ten, definetely passes WP:ATHLETE, WP:BIO and WP:NOTABILITY.-- Iamawesome800  Talk to Me   00:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.   -- Iamawesome800   Talk to Me   21:19, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I declined the speedy since I think being signed by the Steelers asserts some notability. Since any articles about athletes seem to turn into a debate, I felt discussion was warranted. StarM  23:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Being signed by the Steelers is sort of notable but look at the debate over at Articles for deletion/Anthony Arline, same kind of situation (except that Arline wasn't released).-- Iamawesome800  Talk to Me   23:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't disagree. I actually think there ought to be stricter notability guidelines for athletes, but I know others disagree. I don't think it was a speedy, but rather it needed discussion. I think being signed is more notable than college athletes who never go anywhere near the pros getting 8gajillion ghits in their local paper, but it's rarely clear-cit so it's here. I'm neutral as I don't feel like doing the research to prove or disprove notability. I'm too busy watching the game ;) StarM  23:37, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - As the creator of the article, even I wouldn't have a problem with its deletion. I think being a three-time all-conference selection in college and being signed by the Steelers could make him notable enough, but it seems he's not going to be a professional so I wouldn't really argue if people didn't find him notable enough.► Chris Nelson Holla! 00:51, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete. I don't care that he was 3x Big Ten. He's a free agent professional football player. So am I. So are you. All-Americans are usually notable, but not always. All-Conference and no professional career? No way. Timneu22 (talk) 03:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and Comment I'd say his notability was established while in college as a major player in the big ten. That said, he doesn't all of a sudden "lose" notability just because he got cut from a pro team.  College football players can indeed be notable, and I believe that this one is.--Paul McDonald (talk) 20:12, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * DELETEDELETEDELETE ALL THE STEELERS NEED TO BE DELETED...okay being serious here :-) Keep despite my dislike of the team: being multitime all-conference is a major step toward notability, and Google provides several sites (with only a couple of minutes of searching) with detailed coverage — see   as three examples.  Nyttend (talk) 04:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I'd accept an All-American or a college skill player who was a Heisman or other national trophy finalist who never played pro, but All-Big-Ten doesn't cut it for WP:ATHLETE, which is already a pretty low bar. THF (talk) 20:36, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as fails WP:Athlete. Playing for a professional team (or highest level) is required of all sports, this includes sports popular at US colleges.Yobmod (talk) 12:11, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


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