Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doron Sabag (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 00:22, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Doron Sabag

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Self promotion. Non-notable rich man. Fails both WP:N and WP:BIO. No independent reliable source. No references at all. Created by Nimrod Kamer, a user that was banned both from English and Hebrew Wikipedia because of spamming (He wrote many article about himself/his friends and his films - such as this one). This user has some sock poppets (Suspected sock puppets/Marina T..) The article about this 'film' creator was deleted. In fact this article was should be deleted on first nomination. See: Articles for deletion/Doron Sabag beacuse User:Marina T. (who was banned for massive copyvio) and User:Shmila who voted "keep" are both sock puppets of Nimrod Kamer.

To prove is is nn: - only 313 results most of the from Wikipedia and mirrors. - see that most of the results are from mirrors of Wikipedia. --Plantended (talk) 15:03, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong delete - --Plantended (talk) 15:03, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - It seems that this nomination is based on the personality of the article's authors and not on the article subject. Currently the article doesn't cite proper sources, which must be improved, of course, but a quick search in Hebrew (דורון סבג) reveals that Sabag is indeed a notable art patron. He is mentioned many times in the art sections on all leading Israeli web sites - Ynet, NRG, Haaretz and others. (As a side note: the claim that Shmila and Marina T. are Nimrod Kamer's socks was never proved. I tried to prove it and failed.) --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 15:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No it's not. I would nominate it no matter who is the author. --Plantended (talk) 15:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong delete. per nom. THFFF (talk) 16:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong delete - He is nobody in Israel. No reliable source. --Qwerty1234 (talk) 18:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment - The nom, THFFF and Qwerty12345 seem to be sockpuppets. See Suspected sock puppets/Qwerty1234. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 20:25, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not true, see the page. Qwerty1234 (talk) 11:05, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 12:04, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete despite the possible sockpuppetry as noted by Amire80: the article really doesn't demonstrate notability through sources. If reliable sources are added, however, keep.  Nyttend (talk) 14:34, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I added references, including Haaretz calling him one of the most influential people in Israeli art. They are in Hebrew; feel free to ask anyone listed in Category:User he to verify them. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 23:12, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1. Newspaper is not a reliable source. 2. He is nn according to this article. --YYOOYY (talk) 17:55, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Newspaper is not a reliable source??? Haaretz is Israel's oldest daily newspaper. How is it not reliable? --CanadianLinuxUser (talk) 18:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  20:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  20:03, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Nyttend. I live in Israel so I can confirm he is nn. --YYOOYY (talk) 16:31, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - The article requires additional notes but if he is mentioned in Haaretz calling him one of the most influential people in Israeli art, it makes him noteworthy enough. --CanadianLinuxUser (talk) 18:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.