Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dorothy Peacock Elementary School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Procedural keep. I would normally close this as redirect to district but there are quite a few other articles that should be redirected as well, propose a merge/redirect on the district talk. BJ Talk 08:38, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Dorothy Peacock Elementary School

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The Elementary School appears to be non-notable. I tried to redirect it to the related school district's page, but I was reverted. Rockfang (talk) 19:21, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Schools are generally notable. Rwiggum  (Talk /Contrib ) 19:38, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete That's not a notability policy, although everyone is entitled to their own opinion; and frankly, it's fine if an article about a school stays up for a week or so while the teacher is conducting a lesson that involves Wikipedia. However, as a matter of Wikipedia's practice, high schools are considered inherently notable, meaning that they are entitled to an article by virtue of being high schools.  Elementary schools are not automatically presumed to be notable, and are usually mentioned as part of an article about the school district.  I'll say delete because some folks do a cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs when they read the word "merge".  Looks like a few years ago, a user mass-produced a bunch of stubs for schools located in School District 35 Langley, and this and the others can fold into that.  Mandsford (talk) 20:31, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete/Merge - This is one of the sore spots on Wikipedia, we do not have any real policy governing school related articles, however the norm I have seen suggests that most elementary schools are not notable enough to have their own article. So per WP:LOCAL (which is not a policy but an explanation of a part of WP:N) I bet this can be merged either into a school district article, or an article on the municipality. If this for some unknown reason can't be done then I say delete it. - Marcusmax ( speak ) 19:58, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The whole idea that high schools are notable and elementary schools are not is laughable. They're both educational institutions and should be treated the same. Multiple independent reliable sources, awards and unique characteristics confer notability. (Remember, Wikipedia is not a directory) There is only one group of articles that are inherently notable and those are article already covered by existing encyclopedias. - Mgm|(talk) 23:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Google only returned the schools official website and site of school district (not independent) and a directory listing address and phone number. We don't list those for other pages either so we shouldn't for schools either. In short: there's no independent and non-trivial reliable sources. - Mgm|(talk) 00:02, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to School District 35 Langley per precedent. The merged content can be sourced by the school's website. Cunard (talk) 00:38, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —Cunard (talk) 00:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to School District 35 Langley per precedent. TerriersFan (talk) 01:29, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * So where is the independent coverage? Primary websites aren't supposed to be the sole source on a subject. - Mgm|(talk) 10:50, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment This is not a discussion about the content of the article School District 35 Langley, nor will the outcome of this particular discussion about an elementary school have any effect on the continued discussion about whether high schools should get some type of preferential treatment. I think it's fairly clear that no compelling reason has been advanced for keeping a separate page for Peacock Elementary.  Mandsford (talk) 15:16, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think we are also discussing School District 35 Langley, because there are 20+ other separate elementary school articles in that district. - Marcusmax ( speak ) 21:08, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I must have misread the nomination. Let's keep the article about the school district, and delete the other 20+ articles. Mandsford (talk) 23:06, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment This AfD is only for Dorothy Peacock Elementary School. No other articles are being nominated in this AfD.--Rockfang (talk) 03:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. Its difficult to really give an opinion on this one individual article since there are a bunch of similar articles that need to be addressed. Any lasting solution is going to involve determing what to do with all of the articles on the elementary schools for School District 35 Langley. I really don't think its a good idea to leave this article as it is but I also don't think its a great idea to merge it into the article on the school district. I'm not sure deletion is the best solution either. Perhaps a better solution would be to merge all of the District 35 Langley elementary school articles into one large article.Nrswanson (talk) 00:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. I agree with nrswanson on this one. I suggest withdrawing this nom and either proceed with a multiple AFD of all the School District 35 Langley elementary schools or proposing some sort of merger of the articles. Either way I don't care but these articles should be handled together.Broadweighbabe (talk) 03:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.