Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DoubleBear Productions


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Erik9 (talk) 19:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

DoubleBear Productions

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All that I can find is trivial mentions,. The creator contested the prod, but added two references. The GameBanshee link isn't independent of the subject and the second link is a reprint of part of the GameBanshee link. Fails WP:CORP. Joe Chill (talk) 01:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 (talk) 16:27, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

DoubleStuff (talk) 10:27, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - apologies for the lack of formatting here, I wanted to add something quickly. The page has already suffered an attack calling the project "vaporware" from IP address 202.161.6.201, and have added a reference from the Blue's News page.  I have confirmation that an article update will be made on Sunday with mention from Rock, Paper, Shotgun's Kieron Gillen, and that other references will be made in the coming weeks as press for the game and the studio grows.  In addition to this, multiple other small indie game development companies have existing articles on Wikipedia, and although Age of Decadence (an Iron Tower Project) has an existing Wiki page and notable buzz regarding its development, somehow its developer has remained without one.
 * Comment - I'm not really sure that the current references satisfy WP:Reliable sources, but anything from Gillen I'm happy with. However, please note that for the notability guidelines, press releases are not useful and the coverage needs to be much more than a "mention". Currently, all that is on rockpapershotgun is forum chatter Marasmusine (talk) 11:33, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Entirely understood. Mr. Gillen JUST posted something, so I'm going to post it and hopefully it'll help cover more of the necessary ground for acceptance.[] DoubleStuff (talk) 11:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Article is short but has a good number of references. While the reliability of some of the sources can be questioned at the moment I'd still say Keep, studio appears to be new and growing, I'm sure some more reliable sources will become available in the near future -- Cabe  6403  (Talk•Sign) 20:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Update - new interview added with studio lead Brian Mitsoda. [] DoubleStuff (talk) 11:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Update - new interview/story added with designers Brian Mitsoda and Annie Carlson at The Escapist. [] DoubleStuff (talk) 22:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The Rock Paper Shotgun team eat weetabix and shit reliability in gaming journalism, the escapist is dandy too, the other sauces aren't as hot but the majority (from a glance) should be fine. The game's development is active as in now, so the question is whether ultimately the information will need to be in an article about the developers or in the development section of the game, should it appear (and become notable), but there's not going to be an answer for awhile. The sources establish notability IMO. Someoneanother 18:55, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
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