Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doublefaced


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There's consensus to delete all four articles. Haukur (talk) 14:03, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Doublefaced

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Self promotion article, questionable notability, most sources from his own website, major contributors have only contributed to this article. As of today, this article has been written almost entirely by four accounts: Susanne Hyberneth, Hansi-Klump, Cichacoco, Hamm-Ging. All four of these accounts belong to a ring of 33 sockpuppets blocked on the German Wikipedia after an extensive investigation. This block has been applied globally. All 33 sockpuppets were found to be operated by one person. As some of these accounts have been used to uploaded pictures by Bieniek himself to Commons, it stands to reason that Bieniek has written this article all by himself, using fake identities over the course of almost ten years, spamming 44 different language versions of Wikipdia. Policies against sockpuppetry and COI editing aside, this article is a big balloon full of hot air. The majority of statements are sourced to Bieniek's website, mentions on 3rd party media are treated as if the article concerned itself only with Bieniek, his 5 minutes of fame are extended ad nauseam. The text is nothing but blatant self-advertising and puffery. After deleting the main entry Sebastian Bieniek after a clear vote through AfD, it makes sense to apply the same logic to his other self-promotion articles. Minderbinder (talk) 13:41, 22 August 2019 (UTC) I am also adding the articles to this AfD, where the same reasoning applies. The creation by sockpuppets has been documented on each og the Talk pages of these articles. --Minderbinder (talk) 13:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Bieniek-Face
 * The Gamblers (2007 film)
 * Silvester Home Run
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:47, 22 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete coverage for Doublefaced all happened over a couple of months in 2014. Similar short timeline for Bienek-Face. The two film articles do not have inline references, but rather a set of links in the EL section. Not a notable artist per the recent deletion discussion. Many COI issues. Doublefaced achieved some minimal and temporary coverage, but what we have here is puffed up notability. GNG fail. It's very tiring to deal with such promotion: these are articles 2,3,4 and five int he Bienik promotional garden. none of them have obvious notability, but all share promotional puffed up claims and language. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 03:08, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Doublefaced. Source number 1 is a presumed non-reliable source talking about 50,000 Facebook likes, which is not enough to support the claim of it being "a sensation via the Internet and one of the best-known memes of the year 2013/2014". All of the claims of significance in the article are with regard to which magazines featured it. The first 5 sources say that the work was featured in magazines; and sources 6 to 12 describe magazines that reported on the series being "plagiarized in the music video for Pharrell Williams' song "Marilyn Monroe"." -Lopifalko (talk) 12:51, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Silvester Home Run, a short film with no claim of significance or important and no sources. -Lopifalko (talk) 08:25, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete The Gamblers (2007 film) as does not satisfy WP:MOVIE. Has no valuable claim of significance and does not have sources to support it. External links are all in regard to festival showings. -Lopifalko (talk) 11:06, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - This manifestation of the Bienek self-promotion bomb should be deleted. The film is non-notable, a minor work by a non-notable artist with a massive COI and sockpuppetry footprint. Does not pass WP:GNG. Netherzone (talk) 23:20, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * In addition to this AfD, I propose that Sebastian Bieniek be creation protected per WP:SALT, given that it has been deleted three times already by now. See AfD. --Minderbinder (talk) 17:01, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Seconded., you deleted Sebastian Bieniek the last time around; how about it? -- Hoary (talk) 07:25, 28 August 2019 (UTC) Changed my mind. (See below.) -- Hoary (talk) 12:29, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think that two PRODs are a good salting reason, one because PRODs are supposed to be a lightweight deletion and second because I am not sure if the second PRODding was actually correct - WP:PROD only allows one PROD deletion per page. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:48, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You're right, : if I'd looked at the reasons for deletion, I'd have noticed this. (Personally I think that most titles deleted at AfD should be salted, but my opinions are by the way.) -- Hoary (talk) 12:29, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete Doublefaced, Bieniek-Face and Silvester Home Run as unnotable in either the Wikipedia or the normal sense. I shan't pass judgment on The Gamblers (2007 film), not because I think it needs to be preserved (I don't) but because I've already devoted enough of my time to Bieniek and can't stomach clicking the links and skimreading what I find there. -- Hoary (talk) 07:25, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete The Gamblers (2007 film) as well. There is evidence that it was shown, but this is an unremarkable achievement. I see no discussion of it. -- Hoary (talk) 23:02, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per rationale given above. Ktrimi991 (talk) 11:19, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.