Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Douglas Aldrich


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The result was delete. Michig (talk) 20:19, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Douglas Aldrich

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Doesn't fit a CSD criteria, but isn't notable. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 18:34, 18 November 2012 (UTC) I am having trouble citing the real life Douglas Aldrich. It is behind a newspaper paywall and not referenceable. Any suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipietime (talk • contribs) 13:29, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: An alias from one episode of a TV show isn't notable enough for an article. If an article is created for the actor, though, I'd redirect it to that article. Lugia2453 (talk) 18:48, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I might have considered that if it was sourced, but without sourcing.... Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 19:03, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: Non-notable character alias, IMDb - not a reliable source, plus article is possible WP:COPYVIO of IMDb-reference.Shearonink (talk) 02:53, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
 * There is the guitarist Doug Aldrich born in 1964 so couldn't be the namesake for this non-notable fictional character. What "Douglas Aldrich" are you referring to and what newspaper has this information/quote behind a paywall?  If you cannot reach the information, then it is unusable - must be accessible in some fashion but anyone looking into this issue needs to have the newspaper name & info (date, page, etc.) Shearonink (talk) 01:48, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:32, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:32, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, the guitarist is well covered, but, obviously this is not the topic of my entry. The Gastonia, NC Gazette. Why do you ask? Are you willing to assist with this effort to obtain citations?  It is believed that the fictional Aldrich is based on a real life individual; as is common in fiction.  PLEASE answer this; What is the time frame I am working under? I feel like the deletion baton is hoovering with a particular editor's constant borderline badgering.  This seems inappropriate.  --Wikipietime (talk) 15:44, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The reason I asked is that I didn't know, so it wasn't obvious to me. Just wondering - how did you become aware of the asserted possibility that this real-life person is the model of a fictional character if the information is behind a paywall?  And when you refer to "It is believed that the fictional Aldrich"...even if this is so, how would a single published assertion about a minor fictional character be notable?  There doesn't seen to be sufficient coverage to fulfill the general notability guidelines in this instance.  In answer to your timeline query, WP:AFD states that
 * Articles listed are normally discussed for at least seven days, after which the deletion process proceeds based on community consensus. Then the page may be kept, merged or redirected, transwikied (copied to another Wikimedia project), renamed/moved to another title, userfied to a user subpage, or deleted per the deletion policy.
 * In answer to your statement that you think you are being harassed by "a particular editor", I would suggest you first WP:AGF and if you still think that there are issues that need to be resolved, then follow the steps in dispute resolution. Shearonink (talk) 02:01, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete minor character with little coverage, not enough to WP:verify notability. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:51, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Minor character in a minor TV show. Harry the Dog WOOF  17:02, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for info, seriously.Wikipietime (talk) 03:10, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Yet, I must say that I find the guidelines inconsistent when I peruse Doug Aldrich; the lack of citations, etc., The fading effect of time will certainly render this Doug less significant than the current article portrays. It seems that the lens of history should be applied in an equitable fashion. Oh wellWikipietime (talk) 03:18, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:GNG. I don't see any significant coverage of this character. --Odie5533 (talk) 01:50, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I would like to continue stating a claim that this fictional character deserve a degree of notability and my argument for is founded on principle. The topics of polygamy and bigotry are counter to social norms and fictional character(s)' portrayal as pioneering in the respective media is sufficiently notable.  The topic and character was, and still remains taboo thus garnering very little coverage.  The comedic, gold digger,  presentation in "A Woman's Work" made Aldrich palatable and remember-able. But, with 5 DELETES going it is looking quite grim.  How many more DELETES are needed before the term "doing the Douglas Aldrich" goes down?  --Wikipietime (talk) 03:52, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem I am having with him is that he fails the WP:GNG. We can't say anything about his notable qualities from an outside perspective because no one has written about him. The only thing we'd be able to add to the page would be in-universe facts about his character. So for all his pioneering character traits, none of it could be added to the article because it isn't verifiable. --Odie5533 (talk) 04:10, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
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