Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Douglas Quijano


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. The article's subject is found to be notable, per the sources provided below. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 02:04, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Douglas Quijano

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There is no evidence at all that this business manager satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines. The only source cited is a record of his death on the web site of his former employer. A Google search turned up various unreliable sources (including Wikipedia, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, etc) his employer's site again, another, much briefer, report of his death, a page on the website of The Times of India which simply says "There are no news stories on Douglas Quijano" and gives no more information about him at all, a mere entry in a listing site, and so on, but nothing that could be regarded as substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. A PROD was removed in February 2010 by an editor who gave an edit sumamry saying "thi sguy is probably notable", but made no attempt to add sources to the article to show that he was. (That editor did post to the article's talk page, giving a link that was supposedly to a newspaper article about Douglas Quijano, but the link is now dead, and the editor gave no indication at all as to what the content of the article was, or how substantial the coverage was, so it is, unfortunately, impossible to take that into account.) Almost five years after the statement that he is "probably" notable, nobody has added any more evidence of notability to the article. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 21:28, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
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 * Weak Delete, the subject has received significant coverage by way of the subject's obituary in GMA News, also the subject of this AfD has a brief mention as a producer and director of a vampire movie. That being said, the obit can be seen as the subject only meeting WP:BIO1E, and as the single event was the subject's death, WP:NOTMEMORIAL likely applies. Furthermore, as very few reliable sources give significant coverage to the subject's death, and no sources can be found that give significant coverage of the subject of this AfD during the subject's life, it leads me to believe that the subject doesn't meet notability by WP:BIO. Therefore, unless additional in-depth sources can be found, I am leaning towards supporting deletion.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:28, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, he worked for GMA, so the report of his death by GMA News was not independent coverage. A company might well run an account of the death of one of its own employees, but no other news company, so far as I can find, thought him notable enough to report even his death. 79.123.86.96 (talk) 08:55, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ABS-CBN also did a story, but it's difficult for me to access.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:41, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 01:18, 6 February 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Comment, but leaning towards a week keep - As I used to be a frequent reader of Philippine showbiz magazines, I can tell that there is at least one article on him on YES! magazine, published by Summit Media which, as far as my knowledge goes, is not linked to any of the major networks. Also, said article was published before his death (it was an article regarding "the most powerful people in Philippine showbiz" at the time, at which he had an entry). Unfortunately, it might be hard to find said article online, but I can assure that it exists (for reference, it was published prior to around 2010, and the #1 person listed was Willie Revillame while the #2 person listed was Kris Aquino). There should also be coverage over at PEP.ph, which, while apparently linked to GMA, is otherwise an independent news portal as it reports news from all three networks. Also, I feel that trying to use The Times of India as a source is not exactly a good idea given that Quijano was unlikely to have been well-known, if known at all, in India. While these existence of these sources may not necessarily establish notability, it does suggest that this may not be a BLP1E case. Pinging to see if he could help. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:20, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't agree with ruling out sources from GMA: this person must've worked with GMA, ABS-CBN and perhaps all of the other TV networks, even the state-owned ones, so we'd be removing a lot of potential reliable sources. Even newspapers, magazines and online publications could've been involved with him at some point so it'll be very hard to find a reliable source if we'd be basing it on "working with them" rule. The thing is, this person works "behind the scenes" so news reports about him are not easy to come by. – H T  D  13:58, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 05:30, 14 February 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   18:22, 11 March 2015 (UTC) Keep per my comment at Deletion review/Log/2015 March 3. Here are the sources I have found (ordered chronologically):   The article notes: "Ethel Ramos and Douglas Quijano, two of the most respected star builders and handlers we have today, have just celebrated their birthdays. ... Quijano manages Richard Gomez, Anjo and Jomari Yllana, Joey Marquez, Aiko Melendez, Eric Fructuoso, John Estrada, Janice and Gelli de Belen, and has also into line-producing for Regal. Quijano had his billiard, booze and ball party at Padi's Point West ave., where we spotted all his alagas except for De Belen."  The article notes: "11. DOUGLAS QUIJANO, Talent manager « STAR MAKER Douglas Quijano Douglas Quijano has a sharp eye for spotting raw and young talent and molding them into screen idols. That's what he did with the likes of Richard Gomez and Jomari Yllana. Quijano is foremost an image-maker, and he uses that experience to carefully shape his talents into sophisticated sex symbols programmed to sell anything from movie tickets to underwear. With the transfer of most of his talents to GMA, he is also actively involved in the conceptualization and casting of programs there." <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> </ol> Analysis of the sources: The first two sources were published before Douglas Quijano's death. They are from the Philippine Daily Inquirer (which is considered one of the Philippines' newspapers of record) and the Philippine Center for Investigative Journalism. The sixth source, an obituary from GMA Network, is roughly 730 words. The ninth source, an obituary from Pinoy Weekly, is roughly 1,414 words. The widespread coverage of Quijano's death strongly indicates that he is notable because he did not die an unusual death (which would attract media attention). Instead, he died a natural death (by heart attack). There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Douglas Quijano to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 20:35, 11 March 2015 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Relister's comment: This discussion was closed as "delete" but is reopened and relisted following discussion at Deletion review/Log/2015 March 3, where additional sources have been proposed.  Sandstein   18:23, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: Pinging Deletion review/Log/2015 March 3 participants, , , , , , , and . Cunard (talk) 00:57, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think that adds up to significant coverage in reliable sources.— S Marshall T/C 01:04, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
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