Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dounia Batma


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep  criterion #1 (nominator withdrew). Technically, two comments supported deletion; however, they may be discounted as they provided no deletion rationale whatsoever, and this isn't a poll. Also, since this was originally nominated on 19 March and has been relisted twice, it's frankly not a very speedy "speedy". Non-admin action. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 21:13, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Dounia Batma

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Unfortunately, I believe that it is simply too soon for this talented young singer to have an article just yet. She is currently only a finalist on Arab Idol, the Arabic equivalent of American Idol. I couldn't even find enough references to prove her notability. Hesitant to use BLPPROD since I would like to see whether or not she is notable. I vote weak delete since American Idol finalists have articles, although I do not know if this extends to other versions of Idol. I will withdraw this if notability is established, but until then...Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:58, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I was able to search her name in Arabic, and as mentioned by WikiDan61, there were plenty of hits. Google Translate didn't work properly, but based on my use of the Web preview, many of the sites were only portals or video service providers (much like YouTube mirrors or something). No independent coverage like that of Jessica Sanchez I guess. My !vote stays for now, but if more coverage is found, then I'll be happy to withdraw. Article needs some cleanup though, because the lead is practically the whole article. Needs to be bisected into sections. A merge to Arab Idol wouldn't also hurt until more independent coverage is found. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:21, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:19, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:20, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFqtbpqW8k0&feature=related — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigdoul (talk • contribs) 08:19, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I am sorry I am a bit new to this.. Well the thing is that you do have other finalist of Arabic musical competitions such as Ayman Lseeq, Haitham El Shoumali, Rahma Mezher and their pages were not harmed. Plus Dounia Batma has a very strong fan-base all over the middle-east, that some of her videos get over a million views on Youtube and you will find a lot of Arabic medias about her. She was actually broadcasted on Moroccan television today because her arrival in Casablanca prior to the final. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7RlaHzsHtw&feature=player_embedded#!
 * Weak keep As the nominator has himself pointed out, the finalists of other American Idol franchises do have articles, based on the large amount of press such finalists generally receive. I wonder if the nominator thought to search for the Arabic version of Batma's name (دنيا بطمة).  I found lots of hits with this search term, and although I do not speak Arabic, I suspect there are Wikipedians who can make use of these sources.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:24, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete --Uishaki (talk) 18:24, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 26 March 2012 (UTC)




 * Delete --81.240.88.231 (talk) 20:30, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Could the users above that !voted delete without providing any rationale please elaborate why this article should be deleted? See also: Polling is not a substitute for discussion. Northamerica1000(talk) 01:07, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree. Putting a template at the top to warn other editors. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:25, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 06:43, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Reliable sources I found: Al Arabia News, Febrayer, |list MBC.net, Al-Mashhad, AlBayan (AE), Akhbaar24, Moheet, Elaph, Jawhara, DP News, Maghres, Shihan News, Nawaret News, Akhbar Annaharda....and I stopped looking beyond this. I'll make a note to add more references and clean up the article later today. ~dee  ( talk? ) 08:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Withdraw Thanks a lot for finding the sources need. Withdrawing this now since my original concern has been addressed. But someone please cleanup the article! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
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