Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dove Springs, Austin, Texas


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep. Sufficient sources for valid settlement. A merge to List of Austin neighborhoods can be discussed on the relevant talk pages. Espresso Addict (talk) 16:23, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Dove Springs, Austin, Texas

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Non-notable subdivision in Austin Nv8200p talk 15:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I know of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, so I'm just going to mention this. By this logic, this should be either deleted with the article, as there are thousands or more articles like it (who wants to go through them?) or kept. I'm not advocating either one, but I'm just saying that dozens of other such articles exist. NuclearWarfare  ( Talk ) 15:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't agree with the assessment of the nominator that the place is non-notable. We don't have enough information in the article to make a reliable assessment about that. The other neighboorhoods in the category Nuclear mentions have actual content (the ones I checked). I vote to delete because this article has no significant content that cannot be gleaned from a map (which is also a common reason used to delete road articles) - Mgm|(talk) 17:23, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep WP:OUTCOMES suggests that neighborhoods may receive a (rebuttable) presumption of notability if the neighborhood's name is widely known / in widespread usage. Based on this page from Austin parks and rec, and real estate listings that recognize the Dove Springs location as an identifying marker, I'm inclined to say that presumption should stand here; Dove Springs strikes me as a viable search term that a random Wikipedia user might search for to find objective information about the place. Townlake (talk) 17:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Although being used in real estate ads has normally not been sufficient--such ads use almost any possible neighborhood term available--the wording on the City page linked to just above "to provide citizens of the Dove Springs community... " might be sufficient. DGG (talk) 17:33, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete The neighborhood itself does not appear to be notable even within Austin, Texas, much less outside of it.  As noted, neighborhoods and subdivisions are not inherently notable, nor are individual parks or large high-rise apartment buildings.  Almost anything can be an identifying marker; more often, it's a street name.  While there is no bar to referring to them in the context of other articles, individual neighborhoods do not entitled to their own separate page on Wikipedia. Mandsford (talk) 17:57, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - per above. Hogvillian (talk) 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete USGS doesn't list the existence of this neighborhood, although it does appear to have a Methodist church here, which seems to have been found by the USGS in the yellow pages under "churches". Not enough. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The neighborhood tends to get more negative mentions than positive ones, as this page demonstrates. I've got some healthy skepticism toward this page because it doesn't cite a source for many of the stats, but Dove Springs certainly seems to have some distinctive characteristics. Townlake (talk) 21:47, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep place appears to be notable enough, a search of Google Books and Google News finds some results that could be useful for expanding the article. If there is not much that can be written about it, this and other stubs in the category could be merged into List of Austin neighborhoods, to make the list useful as it currently has no more information than the category. — Snigbrook  23:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


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