Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr. Ghadam-Ali Sarami


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep, nomination withdrawn. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:25, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Dr. Ghadam-Ali Sarami

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Article on an non-notable Iranian professor and author which fails both WP:PROF and WP:CREATIVE. Beyond a couple lines of biogaphy, this mostly just amounts to a listing of his books. Google turns up little more than could be expected of a minor author or a non-notable professor. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 21:41, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.   —John Z (talk) 23:46, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep As best I can assess he seems notable. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment For what it's worth, article appears to have been written by the subject himself. ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:00, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep As his field of expertise and the number of books he has written seem to pass Wiki Creative/Academic. However, I am not in Iran, nor do I speak or read Persian, so I will assume good faith from the body of his works that they do likely exist in his country's libraries, until an editor in Iran can convince me they do not. Accepting that verification is naturally difficult due to language barriers, I will accept the sources as given as enough to show his notability.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. If this page had been untagged for a month or more, I would be inclined to delete because of the significant issues with the article. However, given that there are numerous hints of notability in the article, it seems to be more sensible to give concerned editors a chance to address them. Bongo  matic  03:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Very Weak Keep balancing this by the difficulty we have in sourcing when we encounter cultural bias. I am very reluctant to decide on the basis of saying that a modern Iranian writer of children's fiction whose works are not translated to English is non notable. I cannot imagine that the works are not reviewed in Iranian publications, but i wouldnt be able to find them.  I see no basis for making a firm decision on whether he is a minor or major author, or whether his academic works are considered important; if they are, he's notable regardless of the extent of the bio.  If an expert would care to comment, we might get somewhere. All I can do to help is  to report that an alternative transliteration of his name is "Qadam Ali Sarami", from . Bongomatic's basis for dealing with this seems reasonable to me. DGG (talk) 03:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Adamc714 (talk) 08:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Okay, the article has many issues, but you have convinced me that nominating it for deletion is premature. Perhaps the subject meets the guidelines for notability established by WP:PROF and WP:CREATIVE for Iranians and not for English-speaking audiences. Being an English-speaking American, I have no way of telling how notable Dr. Sarami is in his home country, and I did not search for any alternate spellings of his name. However, I think the article could be improved greatly and notability coulde be better assessed if we brought it an expert.  I'll give everyone a chance to work on the article and make it more encyclopedic, although I am still concerned about the potential conflict of interest of the article's creator. Nomination withdrawn. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 15:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


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