Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr. Jivraj Mehta Institute of Technology, Anand


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Everyone knows the drill - High schools/Unis are kept per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, Anyone wanting to merge should obviously visit the TP (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 01:16, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Jivraj Mehta Institute of Technology, Anand

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No evidence that this is a notable university. This is the same as Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/DR.JIVRAJ MEHTA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY,ANAND. Ricky81682 (talk) 07:00, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep as an accredited degree-awarding institution per longstanding precedent and consensus. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - as clearly show in the guidelines of notability for universities, which are not considered notable simply because they exist.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:11, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * By consensus they are. See WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:14, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * So, what you're saying is that AfD has been ignoring the guidelines? Hmmm. Perhaps one of those things needs to be changed - either AfD should begin following the guidelines, or the guidelines should be changed?  Onel 5969  TT me 13:51, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The guidelines should indeed be changed. It's been attempted, but there has been resistance from a few editors who oppose the general consensus and think their opinions are more important than the majority's. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:11, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that,, however to me that makes the case stronger that AfD should be following those guidelines. If an attempt was made at the guideline level, and there was no consensus reached there, than AfD should be following those guidelines. Other projects look to those guidelines (e.g. AfC), and there should be consistency in their application. I don't know, maybe that's just crazy thinking on my part, to want consistent application of guidelines, but it is the way I feel.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:56, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Consensus is reached in many places, including AfD. Just because a handful of disgruntled editors disrupt changes to guidelines should not mean that consensus is not acknowledged. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:03, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  13:43, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - Recognised degree-awarding institution. As per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES we keep these articles on Wikipedia (also see WP:INDAFD). — Cutest<b style="color:#0A47FF">Penguin</b>Hangout 18:20, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Are there any independent sources for that? Sources to the school ] or that are with Gujarat Technological University aren't really independent and the other two sources  are maps. Bullet two under WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES points out a exception "when zero independent sources can be found to prove that the institution actually exists". -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:45, 27 August 2015 (UTC)


 * If the result is KEEP, merge, or redirect-without-deleting, then HISTMERGE all but the last two edits of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/DR.JIVRAJ MEHTA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY,ANAND into the article and discard the remaining two edits. If the result is DELETE or anything that results in the page's deletion, then delete Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/DR.JIVRAJ MEHTA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY,ANAND as well using whatever criteria apply (WP:G13 comes to mind).  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  02:54, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per precedent of WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and related reasons given above, and consider merging with "parent" institution Gujarat Technological University. The decision to merge or not is editorial, not policy/guideline/precedent-driven and should be done outside of this AFD after the AFD closes.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  03:01, 27 August 2015 (UTC)


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