Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dreams Beyond Grades


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. A clear consensus. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 11:11, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Dreams Beyond Grades

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Dreams Beyond Grades was created recently by User:Novelbuzz, an SPA who has also edited the many times deleted and recreated Sujit_Meher, which I am concurrently listing. I don't know how best to AfD two connected articles which are both disrupted/recreated etc by the same crowd of disruptive socks, so I'll just put the relevant information in both places, and cross-link. (Look out for new socks in this discussion.) Sujit Meher, a young fashion designer, is the author of the purported "bestseller" Dreams Beyond Grades. The article Sujit_Meher has been repeatedly speedied and recreated, see the deletion log here:. Yunshui eventually restored Sujit Meher, obviously with some misgivings, on request from a new user, Celebtech. Yunshui's AGF seems frankly of the suicidal kind; consider also the dialogue here. Anyway, Yunshui has left the project, but he was a checkuser and has blocked most of the socks involved in this saga of (to my mind obvious) self-promotion: and. A new sock showed up when I prodded Dreams Beyond Grades yesterday, User:Fashiongrade2016, who removed the prod, restored copyright material to Dreams Beyond Grades, and restored unsourced puffery to Sujit_Meher. Blocked as a sock by Floquenbeam. The story emerging is of SPAs (or to put it more bluntly, socks) determined to promote the person Sujit Meher at all costs, in Sujit Meher and in Dreams Beyond Grades, repeatedly removing speedy templates and prods, requesting undeletion and recreating Sujit Meher with new accounts. I think we should delete and salt all this unscrupolous self-promotion. Oh, the article? Yes. It was quite long before, with a peacock plot summary of the life of the subject (Sujit Meher), most of which is at the moment gone because it's copyvio, but it tends to be restored by fresh socks, see history. To summarize: it fails WP:NBOOK and the sources are all promotional. Bishonen &#124; talk 16:57, 23 March 2016 (UTC).
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 * Delete. Can't really find much on google. The two sources cited by the article, in addition to sounding somewhat promotional, are primarily about the author, not the book, so they don't get anywhere near satisfying the criteria at WP:NBOOK. Uanfala (talk) 20:16, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete this advertorial. Comprehensively fails Notability (books). Only two publicity pieces for references, the first of which is a "shared content" website, and I can't find anything better. No reviews. No evidence of being a best-seller. The publisher is essentially a self-publishing service. Voceditenore (talk) 09:49, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Absolutely does not pass notability at this point - if it ever does become notable, the article can certainly be made more than a stub.  Collect (talk) 16:33, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Advertorial. Would hate to have seen it prior to trimming. Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi  17:27, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails NBOOK per nom. --regentspark (comment) 19:54, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Advertorial, fails NBOOK and I strongly suspect the publisher is a vanity press. - Sitush (talk) 12:40, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sure Omji Publishing House is a self-publishing outfit. They charge authors for their "publishing services" . See also . Voceditenore (talk) 15:29, 25 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - At the moment, this recently published book fails Notability (books). If in the future, it becomes a best-seller, a new article can be created. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:35, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


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