Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dreams and Shadows


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was  Keep Mandsford 20:56, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Dreams and Shadows

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Articles about a straight-to-DVD film and its maker, posted by SPA user, which I have blocked as an obvious role account for Makonnen's Filmwalker Productions. I do not find enough independent reliable sources to suggest that the film meets WP:NF or that Makonnen meets WP:CREATIVE. (Searches for the film are confused by a book of the same name). JohnCD (talk) 15:35, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —JohnCD (talk) 15:40, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, while the film exists, and has screened at festivals, neither the film nor the filmmaker have coverage or awards that would allow either the film consideration under WP:NF, or the filmmaker under WP:BIO. Simply WP:TOOSOON... if ever.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:22, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Struck my delete in light of active work to address issues. I still feel it probably a bit too soon, but for now, I'm willing to give the editor the benefit of the doubt.... and heck... this article can always be revisited if not further improved.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:13, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Preserve, the article is within the scope of the WikiProject and is supported by the American Cinema Task Force. It's also listed on Imdb.com and Amazon.com. The film was recently reviewed on www.Wearemoviegeeks.com and premiered at the American Film Institute. (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artlines478 (talk • contribs) 08:06, January 4, 2011

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:03, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Weak Keep Could do with more than one reference in it, so if there are reliable ones add them now. I'm probably out on a limb here - but this might stir things up a bit. Peridon (talk) 18:25, 8 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Help Need help with removing Cite error in Reference section of article. Artlines478 (talk) 14:00, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I had a look at it before, and it looked like you'd pasted your name in instead of the ref. As I'm hopeless with refs myself, and didn't know what you were trying to add, I left it well alone... Peridon (talk) 22:34, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed it. Artlines478 was apparently tring to expand a quotation and wished a cite back to the source of the quote.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:05, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Looking much better. Peridon (talk) 22:44, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.